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8 clubs Matchpoints

#1 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2015-November-12, 13:07



first off do u agree with 1n in a 2/1 context

secondly what now

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Posted 2015-November-12, 13:37

Yes.
Pass.
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Posted 2015-November-12, 14:25

"2/1 context" isn't really enough information, what's 1♠-3♣?
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Posted 2015-November-12, 14:57

View Postmgoetze, on 2015-November-12, 14:25, said:

"2/1 context" isn't really enough information, what's 1♠-3♣?


strong (not my choice)
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Posted 2015-November-12, 15:28

What do you call an 8-card suit?

3C now should normally show a weak hand with a long suit - though I'm not sure if things are different in 2/1 due to 1NT being wide-ranging.

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Posted 2015-November-12, 16:12

Agree with 1NT.

At matchpoints Pass is a reasonable shot.

At IMPS I bid 4C
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Posted 2015-November-12, 17:47

I would have game forced and probably slam the brakes and end in 5C-1. Or 2. Or 3.
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Posted 2015-November-12, 18:43

4c should be this now. obv it would be stupid to play it as a splinter
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Posted 2015-November-12, 20:10

If a direct 3♣ isn't invitational, then 1NT...3♣ usually is. I can live with calling this hand invitational if that will let me show my 8-card suit, so I bid 3♣. The tough decision will be next round, if partner accepts with 3NT I'll have to decide whether to pull to a suit contract.
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Posted 2015-November-12, 20:43

View Postwank, on 2015-November-12, 18:43, said:

4c should be this now. obv it would be stupid to play it as a splinter


It would be stupid to play it as a splinter but it would be less stupid to play it as a source of tricks + spade fit + not good enough to 2/1.
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Posted 2015-November-12, 20:43

View Posteagles123, on 2015-November-12, 14:57, said:

strong (not my choice)


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Posted 2015-November-13, 00:08

Over 1S, I'd upgrade this hand to an INV single suiter with clubs (whatever methods you use to show that). Although it's a stretch on values, with spade tolerance and an 8c suit at favourable vul it puts the opponents under the most pressure.
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Posted 2015-November-13, 19:15

View PostPhil, on 2015-November-12, 20:43, said:

It would be stupid to play it as a splinter but it would be less stupid to play it as a source of tricks + spade fit + not good enough to 2/1.


whilst we can have a slam with a non-gf opposite a simple rebid, it's massively odds against and for the 1 time you get to slam there'll be more times when you turn them off a club lead and thereby go off in a game you would have made.
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