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Posted 2012-May-31, 14:06
1st seat, NV vs. V MP
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Posted 2012-May-31, 14:08
I open 2H.
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Posted 2012-May-31, 14:11
I open 3♥.
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Posted 2012-May-31, 14:13
You will get a lot of different replies for this, since it is highly style oriented decision.
I would go with 3♥ myself. I wouldnt mind 2♥ or 4♥. Though I don't like 1♥ or pass.
I would go with 3♥ myself. I wouldnt mind 2♥ or 4♥. Though I don't like 1♥ or pass.
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Posted 2012-May-31, 15:46
2♥
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Posted 2012-May-31, 16:50
Here's the entire, bizzare auction.
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Posted 2012-May-31, 17:24
Which seat were you in?
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Posted 2012-May-31, 17:28
Phil, on 2012-May-31, 17:24, said:
Which seat were you in?
Don't ask.
I knew it wasn't right but my hand seemed too good for 2♥ and I did not consider 3♥.
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Posted 2012-May-31, 18:06
Well, I'm glad you are looking at your own decisions instead of trying to get ammo against partner's.
4♥ is abysmal in case youre wondering.
4♥ is abysmal in case youre wondering.
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Posted 2012-May-31, 19:40
3♥. Unfav. I would open 2♥
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Posted 2012-June-01, 15:47
Phil, on 2012-May-31, 18:06, said:
4♥ is abysmal in case youre wondering.
Partner should bid 2♠ ?
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Posted 2012-June-01, 16:19
jillybean, on 2012-June-01, 15:47, said:
Partner should bid 2♠ ?
I think so. With the opponents vulnerable the auction isn't getting away from you and you can show your support later.
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Posted 2012-June-01, 16:40
Phil, on 2012-June-01, 16:19, said:
I think so. With the opponents vulnerable the auction isn't getting away from you and you can show your support later.
& making it easier for me to bid to the 5 level if needed? (if I did have a 1♥ opening)
And, please explain why you would open 3H and not 2,
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Posted 2012-June-01, 16:56
jillybean, on 2012-June-01, 15:47, said:
Partner should bid 2♠ ?
I think both 2S and 3C are far better choices than 4H. Re. the opening, I agree with the_clown, 2H unfavorable, else 3H. The side four card suit really makes this hand a player, I would like to suggest a high ODR to partner. Opening 1H is often going to mislead partner about your defensive potential.
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Posted 2012-June-01, 17:16
jillybean, on 2012-June-01, 16:40, said:
& making it easier for me to bid to the 5 level if needed? (if I did have a 1♥ opening)
And, please explain why you would open 3H and not 2,
And, please explain why you would open 3H and not 2,
The hand has too much playing strength for a w/r two bid. LTC is kind of useful here, and a 6 loser weak two is generally considered heavy. (ducks)
If you compare this hand to a lot of trashy hands where you should be opening 2♥, you can see its worth 3.
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Posted 2012-June-02, 07:57
3H for me as well.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-June-02, 23:46
jillybean, on 2012-June-01, 15:47, said:
Partner should bid 2♠ ?
Or a 4♣ splinter, perhaps?
Unless they are fielding your extremely light 2nd seat opener
3♥ looks like a reasonable opening in this seat at these colours, and should lead to 4♥. Both 2♥ and Pass I think are better than 1♥; 4♥ is ok, if a tad aggressive, and perhaps unnecessary with 3 cards in ♠, except as a double-bluff...
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Posted 2012-June-03, 00:21
I'm finding that my partner and I are miles apart when it comes to opening weak 2's.
He likes '2 of the top 3' in 1st and 2nd seat whereas my requirement is more like 6 to the 'x'. This hand looks too good
to open 2H to me, my partner thinks it is min for a 2H opener. We have some work to do.
I have never defined exactly what a preempt looks like in 1st,2nd,3rd seat, V, NV etc but I don't think a simple point count is adequate and perhaps we need to look at things like loosing trick count and ODR.
He likes '2 of the top 3' in 1st and 2nd seat whereas my requirement is more like 6 to the 'x'. This hand looks too good
to open 2H to me, my partner thinks it is min for a 2H opener. We have some work to do.
I have never defined exactly what a preempt looks like in 1st,2nd,3rd seat, V, NV etc but I don't think a simple point count is adequate and perhaps we need to look at things like loosing trick count and ODR.
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Posted 2012-June-03, 07:30
jillybean, on 2012-June-03, 00:21, said:
...my partner thinks it is min for a 2H opener.
I cannot imagine playing a style where this is "minimum" for a 2H opening.
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