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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2012-May-11, 01:10



I know the rule "dont rebid 5 card minors" but is this the time to break that rule?
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Posted 2012-May-11, 01:57

I don't know that rule, but I would never bid 2D here, nor any other number of diamonds. They are vulnerable, let's defend 1NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-May-11, 03:51

Annoying as it is, I think you've gotta pass. Clearly partner has almost nothing, and West already bid your 2nd suit.

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Posted 2012-May-12, 05:04

If you want to bid again, you have an obvious dble to show a good hand. Dbling here after an overcall is more along the lines of "maximum overcall" than a true t/o double, so i think xx hearts is fine.

OTOH, this seems like a pretty good time to pass.
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Posted 2012-May-12, 09:30

We don't have a fit and don't have a game, no reason to be aggressive - if we can make something, they are down in a vulnerable 1NT as Han said.
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Posted 2012-May-12, 12:32

If partner has anything why would we try for +90 against our +100 or +200 right here? +90 against vul opponents at mp's is such an irritating score I never volunteer it if I have a choice.

If partner doesn't have anything we are going for anything from -100 to -500 against a very possible -90.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 04:59

 phil_20686, on 2012-May-12, 05:04, said:

If you want to bid again, you have an obvious dble to show a good hand. Dbling here after an overcall is more along the lines of "maximum overcall" than a true t/o double, so i think xx hearts is fine.


I completely disagree with all of this.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 07:22

Wisely or not, I did bid again.



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Posted 2012-May-14, 08:45

The 2 rebid seems to have no effect on the final contract.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 09:35

 Phil, on 2012-May-14, 08:45, said:

The 2 rebid seems to have no effect on the final contract.

Yes, true. That was not really the reason for the post, I felt my 2 bid was dubious.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

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Posted 2012-May-14, 11:21

Seems declarer should make 2 spades. You can tap declarer 3 times and generate an extra trump trick for yourself, but then you get tapped in clubs and they only lose 3 trumps and 2 diamonds. Must have gotten help from a creative declarer.

As Phil noted, no effect on final contract. The admonition about not rebidding 5-cd minor is about rebidding after opening a minor, when your opening only promised 3. It goes double after an overcall, which already promised 5!
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Posted 2012-May-14, 15:48

 jillybean, on 2012-May-14, 09:35, said:


Yes, true. That was not really the reason for the post, I felt my 2 bid was dubious.

I agree and would've passed rather than 2
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