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Play or defend? Pretty sure the best lead is the 8♠ but I get all confused from there.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 08:33
Play or defend? Pretty sure the best lead is the 8♠ but I get all confused from there.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 08:43
Play.
For instance, you cover the S8, and win the Q with the ace. Now keep throwing west in with high hearts. He can't profitably lead a minor. If he leads a diamond, you avoid a diamond loser. If he doesn't, you retain the DA to get back to the (eventually ruffed out) clubs. If he leads hearts, spades, or clubs, he just delays the inevitable.
EW get 2 hearts and a spade.
edit: whats interesting is you have to cut off east's hand. So you have to duck the ST or SK lead at T1
For instance, you cover the S8, and win the Q with the ace. Now keep throwing west in with high hearts. He can't profitably lead a minor. If he leads a diamond, you avoid a diamond loser. If he doesn't, you retain the DA to get back to the (eventually ruffed out) clubs. If he leads hearts, spades, or clubs, he just delays the inevitable.
EW get 2 hearts and a spade.
edit: whats interesting is you have to cut off east's hand. So you have to duck the ST or SK lead at T1
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Posted 2010-May-31, 08:48
Play.
I cover the♠8 with the Jack. East will be kept of lead, an clubs set up.
If the ♠10 (Or king) is led, I duck, and again clubs will be set up without letting east on lead.
I cover the♠8 with the Jack. East will be kept of lead, an clubs set up.
If the ♠10 (Or king) is led, I duck, and again clubs will be set up without letting east on lead.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 09:16
Ah, okay, I missed covering the 8 with the J, thanks guys. I think my partner figured that out when I discussed it with him but I didn't quite get what he meant. I just thought it was a neat suit blocking/keeping off lead problem, as wyman said.
Two more questions on the hand though. The auction at the table:
(1♦)-2♣-(P)-2♥
(P)-2♠-(P)-4♥-AP
1♦ was a 2+ suit, playing 10-12 NT.
What do you lead vs. 4♥?
2nd question (refer to diagram in original post): Do you rate to make the right play at trick 1 against any spade lead single dummy (3/5 leads)? I think I'd fail against the K and 10 but succeed against the 8.
Better yet, if it starts ♠8, 3, ?, are you gonna find the play of the 9 as East?
Two more questions on the hand though. The auction at the table:
(1♦)-2♣-(P)-2♥
(P)-2♠-(P)-4♥-AP
1♦ was a 2+ suit, playing 10-12 NT.
What do you lead vs. 4♥?
2nd question (refer to diagram in original post): Do you rate to make the right play at trick 1 against any spade lead single dummy (3/5 leads)? I think I'd fail against the K and 10 but succeed against the 8.
Better yet, if it starts ♠8, 3, ?, are you gonna find the play of the 9 as East?
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 09:33
At the table, probably I would not find the 9 as east, but upon reflection, the lead is either from 82 or from KT8, so the 9 is right.
As for what to lead, blech. I'd probably lead a club, but I'd feel bad about it. If I lead a spade, I lead the 8.
As for what to lead, blech. I'd probably lead a club, but I'd feel bad about it. If I lead a spade, I lead the 8.
"I think maybe so and so was caught cheating but maybe I don't have the names right". Sure, and I think maybe your mother .... Oh yeah, that was someone else maybe. -- kenberg
"...we live off being battle-scarred veterans who manage to hate our opponents slightly more than we hate each other. -- Hamman, re: Wolff
"...we live off being battle-scarred veterans who manage to hate our opponents slightly more than we hate each other. -- Hamman, re: Wolff
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