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#1 User is offline   wank 

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Posted 2009-November-08, 20:13

This is a strong event - the most prestigious in Britain.

Just done my coconuts in this....

2 key boards.

Firstly, void AQxx Atxxxx Jxx Everyone's vul.

Bidding goes 2 strong on left, 2 from P, pass on right (showing better than a double negative)

What do you bid?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Secondly,

Ax AQT8x xx 109xx Love all

1 from P (you're playing 14-16 NT, 5cM and 1 is 5+ unless 4441 so 1 is pretty meaningless. you routinely open feautureless 11s), 3 on right, 3 from you, 4 on left (suggesting a save, 4 would have been a raise with no saving interest), 4 from P, 5 on right, you double, all out.

Your lead?
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Posted 2009-November-08, 20:23

wank, on Nov 8 2009, 09:13 PM, said:

This is a strong event - the most prestigious in Britain.

Just done my coconuts in this....

2 key boards.

Firstly, void AQxx Atxxxx Jxx Everyone's vul.

Bidding goes 2 strong on left, 2 from P, pass on right (showing better than a double negative)

What do you bid?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Secondly,

Ax AQT8x xx 109xx Love all

1 from P (you're playing strong NT, 5cM and 1 is 5+ unless 4441 so 1 is pretty meaningless), 3 on right, 3 from you, 4 on left (suggesting a save, 4 would have been a raise with no saving interest), 4 from P, 5 on right, you double, all out.

Your lead?

1) 2
2) a trump
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Posted 2009-November-08, 20:35

1) 5
2) trump
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-November-08, 21:25

I'd lead a trump on the 2nd one
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Posted 2009-November-09, 02:38

5

and a trump
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Posted 2009-November-09, 03:49

5 is nat, but it is the only way to find if partner's got fit or not aplying the correct pressure, so lets try it.

I'd lead A
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Posted 2009-November-09, 04:02

I'm afraid partner would take 5 as natural as opposed to fit showing so I'll bid 4 and compete to 5 when 4 comes around back to me.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 04:21

5 and A.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-November-09, 04:27

#1 4D - fit jump or 3S splinter, we play fit jumps, so for me it would be 4D.
I want to prepare the decision, if 4S comes back to me.
If 4S comes back, I will make a X to show add. defence and offence, to ask
p, if we should defend 4S or not.

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Posted 2009-November-09, 06:50

andy_h, on Nov 9 2009, 05:02 AM, said:

I'm afraid partner would take 5 as natural as opposed to fit showing so I'll bid 4 and compete to 5 when 4 comes around back to me.

Yep, agree that 5 is natural not fit showing, but I still chose it because I want to bid higher than 4, also opponents can't pass us out in 5 undoubled so it is safe.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 07:38

655321, on Nov 9 2009, 11:50 PM, said:

andy_h, on Nov 9 2009, 05:02 AM, said:

I'm afraid partner would take 5 as natural as opposed to fit showing so I'll bid 4 and compete to 5 when 4 comes around back to me.

Yep, agree that 5 is natural not fit showing, but I still chose it because I want to bid higher than 4, also opponents can't pass us out in 5 undoubled so it is safe.

Ideally I would definitely like to have 5 as fit showing so it gives the opponents a guess already at the five level, but another factor that I'm worried about with 5 being just natural is that if they compete to 5 I wouldn't have shown my support at all.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 08:19

Yes andy that is right ir partner has 7 hearts and would be willing to compete to 6 hearts if you raised. But note that he is gonna raise your diamonds if he has 3 wich is still very fine.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 13:51

1) Interesting problem. We're certainly willing to bid to 5 but don't know whether we should be aiming to make a correct choice between defending 5 vs bidding 6, or defending 6 vs bidding 7. In any case I bid 4 (whether fit jump or not) but may have to decide later whether to pass 5 or bid on. If jumping in hearts immediately I would try 6 since 5 is unlikely to buy it and unilaterally choosing to defend 5 doesn't feel right.

2) Definitely a trump.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 13:55

Fluffy, on Nov 9 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

Yes andy that is right ir partner has 7 hearts and would be willing to compete to 6 hearts if you raised. But note that he is gonna raise your diamonds if he has 3 wich is still very fine.

Partner does not have 7 hearts. (Mine anyway.)
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Posted 2009-November-09, 15:05

in general we play fit jumps. no particular agreement for the actual auction, unsurprisingly. that would definitely only be 4d though - no chance of p taking 5d as fit too
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Posted 2009-November-09, 15:59

wank, on Nov 9 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

in general we play fit jumps. no particular agreement for the actual auction, unsurprisingly. that would definitely only be 4d though - no chance of p taking 5d as fit too

OK. I'll bid 5 non-fit-showing diamonds.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 16:02

Like the trump lead on the second.

On the first I'm just going to bid 6 right now. Partly to make them guess but partly that if they defend I have great chances of either being cold or making on the wrong lead. If partner is psyching vul, well, that'll teach him.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 22:41

had to wait until someone bid 6h - that was my unsuccessful choice.

partner has kx kxxxxx xx xxx. 6x is 800. you've got 2 bangers and the K against 5.

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i'm pleased a trump was the most popular lead v 5x though - that's the same 550 i conceded, as would a club be. declarer did rather well to guess spades. as it happens, +100 wouldn't have been much of a victory - teamies sold to 4 unlightnered so that made.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 23:58

wank, on Nov 8 2009, 09:13 PM, said:

This is a strong event - the most prestigious in Britain. 

Just done my coconuts in this....

2 key boards.

Firstly, void AQxx Atxxxx Jxx   Everyone's vul. 

Bidding goes 2 strong on left, 2 from P, pass on right (showing better than a double negative)

What do you bid?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Secondly,

Ax AQT8x xx 109xx Love all

1 from P (you're playing 14-16 NT, 5cM and 1 is 5+ unless 4441 so 1 is pretty meaningless.  you routinely open feautureless 11s), 3 on right, 3 from you, 4 on left (suggesting a save, 4 would have been a raise with no saving interest), 4 from P, 5 on right, you double, all out. 

Your lead?

1) 4h, no problem yet. Hopefully pard will think I have hearts.
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