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Pass or bid? Situational hand evaluation

#21 User is offline   Al_U_Card 

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Posted 2005-July-22, 08:50

Trump promotion of the H9. Here are the MP results for the board.
200 -100 100 200 -140 -200 -500 -500 800 100 -500
The field was your typical, 18 table, wednesday afternoon, club game......
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Posted 2005-July-22, 10:20

Al_U_Card, on Jul 22 2005, 09:28 AM, said:

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> East </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> Both </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> MP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> Kxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> Jxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> KJxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> Kxx </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->

Not to forget that pard was a passed hand.  He liked my "free" bid of 3D and raised to game.  We were doubled and on the 4-0 split ended up down 2 for 1 out of 11 matchpoints.   :)

I said that due to the 2S double, my hand had a value that he needed to know about if they bid on.  My plan B was to pass and when they bid 4S, I would bid 5D as a 5H sac/lead director against an eventual 5S....... ah, the best laid schemes o' mice and men.... B)

I must admit I would have opened 1D on that piece of junk.
1d=1s=x(nfb)=etc.
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Posted 2005-July-23, 00:19

I'm not sure that I likeP's 2S bid (my understanding of the dbl of 2S is showing a 6-bagger). That spade king is of rather questionable value. What would 2NT mean (yes, I know some play it as 4-card limit + raise)? Would 3 of something by P be a FNJ raise? This hand is so flat with a poorly located spade king that, if 2NT isn't natural, then I'm not so sure that overcaller shouldn't bid 3D instead of 4D. I am curious about people's feelings about that 2S bid.
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Posted 2005-July-23, 07:16

I bid 4 ,

if they bid 4 I will pass and will have to lead, there is no way that I want to give away my suit information, and help declarer play the hand.

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Posted 2005-July-23, 22:33

:)
I don't think you have the right cards (doubleton spade and 12 HCP) to try for slam opposite a passed hand. This makes 4 the obvious value bid. But, do you wanna get cute in case the opponents have a 4 future in mind?

Table feel is a factor here. 3 may be the best bid if you think the opponents are still thinking of being active in this auction. The idea is to give partner the info she needs when the opponents bid 4, and if they don't, you still intend to get to your game having given away info which is probably (hopefully) nonessential to the defense.

Based purely on the info given from the auction, I am a 3 bidder.
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