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Posted 2025-June-10, 20:49



15-17nt, partner is conservative but will open most 12 counts
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Posted 2025-June-10, 21:21

Playing a version of TW

Or if you just want to invite not bothering with the weak Majors

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Posted 2025-June-10, 21:27

Seems like a straightforward redouble.
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Posted 2025-June-10, 21:45

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The X has disappeared
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Posted 2025-June-10, 21:49

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-June-10, 21:27, said:

Seems like a straightforward redouble.


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Posted 2025-June-10, 22:02

Well, I'm lost already - 1NT is pretty much non-existent in my book, so I have no idea what partner could possibly mean by it.
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Posted 2025-June-10, 22:05

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-June-10, 22:02, said:

Well, I'm lost already - 1NT is pretty much non-existent in my book, so I have no idea what partner could mean by it.

I'm guessing North has a 3-card club holding (maybe xxx) and, based on West's slow pass, is masterminding.
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Posted 2025-June-10, 23:23

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The X has disappeared

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Posted 2025-June-10, 23:27

If the XX is values then 1N is balanced 12-14 so Stayman or 2N is where we go next.
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Posted 2025-June-11, 00:24

This is a clear XX. And redouble is there for business (not just to show values), we're not going to declare, it's going to be a bloodbath.

I expect this result to be similar to the last time I redoubled;

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Posted 2025-June-11, 00:32

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-June-10, 23:27, said:

If the XX is values then 1N is balanced 12-14 so Stayman or 2N is where we go next.


XX is values with a clear message "We should do everything we can to defend them doubled" 12-14 balanced is a PASS, don't let them escape. Bidding is a subpar opening.
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Posted 2025-June-11, 00:44

View PostHuibertus, on 2025-June-11, 00:33, said:

XX is values with a clear message "We should do everything we can to defend them doubled" 12-14 balanced is a PASS, don't let them escape. Bidding is a subpar opening.

Undoubtedly, but the bid was 1N (see smerriman's comment) so in the absence of any other agreements what do you assume?; that partner thinks the redouble is a 'bid again'' action?
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Posted 2025-June-11, 01:36

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-June-11, 00:44, said:

Undoubtedly, but the bid was 1N (see smerriman's comment) so in the absence of any other agreements what do you assume?; that partner thinks the redouble is a 'bid again'' action?


I belief the message of 1NT is "I want to get sacked as a bridge partner".
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Posted 2025-June-11, 03:40

View PostHuibertus, on 2025-June-11, 01:36, said:

I belief the message of 1NT is "I want to get sacked as a bridge partner".


No, it's I'm minimum and don't actually have clubs, I'd rather not play in a 2-1 or 3-1 club fit redoubled.

For us in this auction, partner either has 5+ unless exactly 4414 or 4+ and 15+ points, so the situation is a little different.
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Posted 2025-June-11, 06:36

This pair is playing XX is "both majors 10+ points" , 1nt is a place to play, denying majors
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Posted 2025-June-11, 06:39

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-June-10, 21:27, said:

Seems like a straightforward redouble.

What is your xx?
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Posted 2025-June-11, 06:44

View Postjillybean, on 2025-June-11, 06:36, said:

This pair is playing XX is "both majors 10+ points" , 1nt is a place to play, denying majors

Was any of this alerted?
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Posted 2025-June-11, 08:25

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-June-11, 06:44, said:

Was any of this alerted?

I don't know, I doubt it.
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Posted 2025-June-11, 13:01

View Postjillybean, on 2025-June-11, 06:39, said:

What is your xx?

Just standard 10+, desire to defend. I don't know why you'd want it to promise both majors, but even if it did, why would partner let them off the hook when it's looking like a juicy penalty?
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Posted 2025-June-11, 14:37

I’m not sure how many top players still use xx as strength showing. I think it’s become increasingly common to use it as part of a transfer scheme. I haven’t played a penalty redouble for many years and don’t miss it at all.

It’s a rare hand where one can find a lucrative double at the one level. Not impossible, but rare. Meanwhile the ability to use transfers improves many auctions.
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