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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2024-November-22, 10:09

I'm cleaning out my forums inbox and cam across a question I sent to Mike in 2003


Hi there Mike,




You open a moth eaten 1 partner responds 2

What now please, is 2 a 'Ive got a poor hand, lets tread carefuly?'

Thanks

(I was fresh out of learn to play bridge lessons and we were taught you had to have 6 to rebid your suit. I am not sure if I had even heard of 2/1)

Mike's reply at the time

I agree with the 1 opening. There are two schools of thought on the rebid.

Some would raise to 3... Doug Fraser, a Grand Life Master and multiple CNTC champion, with whom I play a lot, would raise to 3 and think it to be a non-problem. This is within a 2/1 method, btw, which is important.

If not playing 2/1, then the usual approach is that 3 is forcing for one round, and hence should promise more than a minimum hand.. altho the 'more' may and often will be in the form of shape rather than hcp.. thus to raise on a minimum requires 4 card support. If playing that method, I would rebid 2.

Of course, bridge players being what we are, you will undoubtedly find some who say that you cannot rebid such a suit... and some of them will also say (not on this hand, but if you independently asked them what 3 shows) that 3 shows extras.. in other words, they will have an incoherent, unplayable set of rules.

And still others will say.. well, bid 3♣ (if any of them approach you...run! Unless they are playing a strong club method, where the 1H bid is limited, they don't know what they are doing)

My own preference is to rebid 2 within either a SA or a 2/1 method.. this is the 2nd of the 2 mainstream schools of thought.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
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Posted 2024-November-22, 10:31

I would be happy to raise to 3 on this particular hand, but only because in our flavour of 2/1 2 rigorously promises 5 cards.
Otherwise our general approach is to rebid 2 not promising 6 rather than bid 3 without extras.
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Posted 2024-November-23, 05:54

View Postpescetom, on 2024-November-22, 10:31, said:

I would be happy to raise to 3 on this particular hand, but only because in our flavour of 2/1 2 rigorously promises 5 cards.
Otherwise our general approach is to rebid 2 not promising 6 rather than bid 3 without extras.

"Not promising 6" is how the bid is described in North America" all right. But that is misinformation. A correct description is "waiting bid saying nothing additional about the heart suit."
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