[hallway]

Tding a 7 table tourney the following board was played in 7 different contracts I asked around and received 2 replies and now I have 9 different contracts

Sorry been a long time since I had time to post on here and I cant find the hand insert form I'm sure you can figure it out though ( looked perfect in the draft !)

North
♠ - ----
♥- AKJ652
♦ - 10 8 7
♣ - Q854

West East
♠ - Q1098753 ♠- KJ62
♥- 10943 ♥ - Q87
♦ - 6 2 ♦ - A3
♣ - 3 ♣ - A1076
South
♠ - A74
♥ - ---
♦- KQJ954
♣- KJ92

What would be the optimum contract and why ?

Two contracts made =,
1 made + 2.

South was declarer at 4 tables , North at 2 tables and West at 1 table.

N/S Not Vul :: E/W Vul

East Opened 1C at all tables

I have promised to get them the good oil - must be a consensus somewhere ?

[HardVector]

Are you looking for optimum, or realistic? Optimum, is 3s by east. It plays 1 trick worse by west. 4d by NS is indestructible, I think.

[akwoo]

I would expect the bidding to go

1C - 1D - 2S - 3H
4S - AP

which is down 2 for -200.

If E/W aren't playing weak jump shifts (in competition), then N/S have some chance of finding 5D, but it's pretty hard.

The weak-NTers might get to 4S by East, which is only down 1.

[TylerE]

5♦ is a maker, actually. W shows out on the 2nd club so you are 100% to come back and hook the 10.

[msjennifer]

TylerE, on 2018-October-08, 22:38, said:

5♦ is a maker, actually. W shows out on the 2nd club so you are 100% to come back and hook the 10.

Sir,pardon me but ,there appears to be an oversight.W is on lead and certainly he is not dumb to lead a spade where no trick is expected.A club lead ,club ruff and the inescapable DA means 3 losers of the top.

[msjennifer]

hallway, on 2018-October-08, 17:35, said:

Sir,excuse me but the S7 is duplicated and W has 14 cards.
Tng a 7 table tourney the following board was played in 7 different contracts I asked around and received 2 replies and now I have 9 different contracts

Sorry been a long time since I had time to post on here and I cant find the hand insert form I'm sure you can figure it out though ( looked perfect in the draft !)

North
♠ - ----
♥- AKJ652
♦ - 10 8 7
♣ - Q854

West East
♠ - Q1098753 ♠- KJ62
♥- 10943 ♥ - Q87
♦ - 6 2 ♦ - A3
♣ - 3 ♣ - A1076
South
♠ - A74
♥ - ---
♦- KQJ954
♣- KJ92

What would be the optimum contract and why ?

Two contracts made =,
1 made + 2.

South was declarer at 4 tables , North at 2 tables and West at 1 table.

N/S Not Vul :: E/W Vul

East Opened 1C at all tables

I have promised to get them the good oil - must be a consensus somewhere ?

[msjennifer]

Sir,excuse me, but the S7 is duplicated.and West has 14 cards.

[The_Badger]

I will assume a 10 card ♠ fit for E/W as it is over four times more likely than an 11 card fit. (The board display icon is the enclosed ♠ symbol on the far right of the icons for future reference.)

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[Cyberyeti]

Well 5 of a minor is a very reasonable contract NS, 5♦ getting beaten by the club ruff, 5♣ is tricky to bid after the 1♣ opener, but might make although it seems in trouble if EW just keep playing spades.

I'm not totally familiar with how you bid this starting 1♣ as I would open a weak NT

I'm not clear if over 1♣-(1♦) W bids 2♠ or passes and if he passes whether E passes or doubles over 1♥ from N. It's possible NS could get a totally free run.

[nekthen]

Optimum contract is 5♣. I think this makes double dummy, while 5♦ is unlucky.
What happens at the table is something else entirely.
I foresee everything from 3♠ = to 5♠x -2 NS and 3♦ +2 to 5♥ -x EW

[pescetom]

Cyberyeti, on 2018-October-09, 04:21, said:

I'm not clear if over 1♣-(1♦) W bids 2♠ or passes and if he passes whether E passes or doubles over 1♥ from N. It's possible NS could get a totally free run.

Not around here. Almost everyone plays WJS also in competition, so W bids 2♠ without hesitation.

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2018-October-09, 07:09, said:

Not around here. Almost everyone plays WJS also in competition, so W bids 2♠ without hesitation.

We play fit rather than WJS.

[janhamhurg]

1♣ 1♦ 2♠ 3♥ 4♠ x would me my bidding with the 2♠ bid based on 6 cards being an absolute minimum.i would x the final contract with all my defensiv tricks as South with a partner who shows about 10 points. Partner should sit, since AK♥ are very good values vs 4♠.

[The_Badger]

I think the final contract all depends on what system E/W are playing. If E/W are playing weak jump responses then they will arrive in a ♠ contract; if not, then N/S will arrive in a ♦ contract. That about sums up this board.

If West doesn't mention the ♠s, then on values N/S should arrive in a 5♦ contract (as Cyberyeti rightly says) unfortunately going down on the ♣ ruff.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

even playing WJS: I would not make the WJS as West, we are Red vs. Green, I have shortage in
partners suit.
At this colors, a WJS should show something constructive.
Bidding a WJS or a NFB with this kind of hand is one of the main reasons, WJS / NFB have such a
bad reputation.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[hallway]

The_Badger, on 2018-October-09, 01:18, said:

I will assume a 10 card ♠ fit for E/W as it is over four times more likely than an 11 card fit. (The board display icon is the enclosed ♠ symbol on the far right of the icons for future reference.)

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Thanks My not using the board display has caused some confusion I've made a note - M