[lamford]

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Camrose 32-board match converted to VPS.

Do you bid or do you let it go?

[rhm]

With no defensive trick I let it go.
Too frustrating if next hand will jump to 4 Spades or they reach game in hearts thereafter.
We could have 3NT but then partner might also bid 3NT without the diamond ace

Rainer Herrmann

[sfi]

Swish it, for all the reasons Rainer gives.

[lamford]

rhm, on 2017-March-07, 07:21, said:

With no defensive trick I let it go.
Too frustrating if next hand will jump to 4 Spades or they reach game in hearts thereafter.
We could have 3NT but then partner might also bid 3NT without the diamond ace

Rainer Herrmann

I did float, and it was a swing out. I thought, at love all, partner should have overcalled 1NT on AKx Kxxx ATx Txx. ... They can beat 3NT, of course, with a heart and four clubs, but we were not playing Mystic Meg and Theresa Caputo.

[rmnka447]

Either opener has a moose of a hand or partner has values and ♠ but can't bid because of other imperfections.

I'm reopening with 2 ♦. I might not have many points but certainly have lovely ♦.

If the hand were completely scruffy, say ♠ J10 ♥ 1094 ♦ KJ972 ♣ 1087, then it might be harder to reopen.

[ahydra]

I would bid 2D, but that's mainly because I always reopen very aggressively after (1x)-p-(p). (I adopted this style some years ago, after losing the Undergraduate Varsity match on the last board when partner didn't reopen to find our cold game! So far it has paid off more than it has lost, I would judge.)

I don't think it's routine to overcall 1NT on a 4333 14-count even when NV (again that may be because I expect partner to reopen aggressively, but: one would also overcall 1NT on a mediocre 18, and is a range of 14-18 workable?). I would have sympathy for it though, and also for a TOX with the four hearts.

I guess East at the other table punted 3NT direct over 2D? I was thinking that if East advertises a strong stop in spades, South may be reluctant to lead one and likely set 3NT as a result.

ahydra

[lamford]

ahydra, on 2017-March-07, 10:43, said:

I guess East at the other table punted 3NT direct over 2D? I was thinking that if East advertises a strong stop in spades, South may be reluctant to lead one and likely set 3NT as a result.

ahydra

At the other table, it went (1S)-P-(1NT)-2D on this hand. Now opener rebid 2H and partner punted 3NT as his heart guard was working well. Opener doubled which some think should be don't lead a spade, but one was led anyway and that was +550 and +140 in this room!

[wank]

i would have doubled on partner's hand but i would bid on this hand too. yes your defence is minimal but your hand is good on offence. it's a little negative to give up imo - 3 hearts is not few enough to be an alarm bell.
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[aguahombre]

So, South's decision to sell out at this table would have resulted in a one-IMP loss -140 vs +100 if his East teammate had come to the party on opening lead.

And, if Opener happened to be 5-4-1-3 instead of 5-4-0-4 it would have been a 5-IMP gain -110 vs +300. I think the focus is on the wrong table.

[mycroft]

I have the other problem with 1NT on this hand - swap your hand and third, and they'll know exactly what to do.

The risk doesn't go away with "good 15 minimum", but I don't see any reason to increase it.

I have to admit I would have balanced with this hand; this time it would have worked, but if I had done it, the auction would have continued (3♦)-p-(3♥)-p; (4♥). And even if they didn't find the cold game, +170 would seriously outscore -50...

[MrAce]

PASS

[aguahombre]

MrAce, on 2017-March-07, 15:17, said:

PASS

Someone will probably ask for clarification of this. But, I googled it, and agree.

[Kaitlyn S]

If not even Rainer bids, doesn't pass have to be correct?

[msjennifer]

PASS.Not a single sure defensive trick! TWO passes after LHO opened sounds strange.Partner did not overcall nor did he double holding a decent 11/12 and four carder fair heart suit.And almost 9 losers!

[RD350LC]

Maybe others will not agree, but I would re-open with 2D. As they put it, losers pass, winners balance.

[Kaitlyn S]

RD350LC, on 2017-March-08, 09:14, said:

Maybe others will not agree, but I would re-open with 2D. As they put it, losers pass, winners balance.

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Putting the auction in the hand diagram didn't work for me, but I imagined something like:

1S P P 2D Dbl P 2H P 4D P 6H.

[neilkaz]

Maybe I am the only one here quite surprised that PD can't find a bid directly over 1♠ with this prime 14 count and 4 cards in the other major. OK it is a pancake, but still is a prime 14. I'd make a take out double or 2nd choice stretch to 1NT.

[Vampyr]

Please delete

[sfi]

Kaitlyn S, on 2017-March-08, 12:28, said:

I imagined something like:

1S P P 2D Dbl P 2H P 4D P 6H.

Partner and I had one of these a couple of years ago. I opened 1S on a big two-suiter and the auction was quicker than yours:

1S - (P) - P - (2D)
4H - (P) - 6H

1430 was a good result against the -140 our teammates brought back.

[nullve]

MrAce, on 2017-March-07, 15:17, said:

PASS

RD350LC, on 2017-March-08, 09:14, said:

I would re-open with 2D. As they put it, losers pass, winners balance.

Given West's shape, would anyone really balance with a much weaker hand or pass with a much stronger hand?

This post has been edited by nullve: 2017-March-26, 11:50