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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2015-October-20, 05:54



No fancy agreements, 4M to play, 5M invitational, 4NT should be natural but partner will take it as RKCW for diamonds.

Follow up questions will come.
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Posted 2015-October-20, 06:03

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Posted 2015-October-20, 06:04

I'd double now, and would regard this dble as GF, so if your partner responds 4d that is forcing. If partner bids something other than 4d I am going to drive a slam. If he bids 4d I will bid 4S and give up.
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Posted 2015-October-20, 08:35


Fluffy says "No fancy agreements, 4M to play, 5M invitational, 4NT should be natural but partner will take it as RKCW for diamonds. Follow up questions will come.

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1. Double. Intending to bid 4 over 4 like phil_20686.
2. 4. Fearing bad breaks.
3. 6. Brave.





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Posted 2015-October-20, 12:30

Double. My 3_card club suit should guard against partner passing for penalties. :)
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Posted 2015-October-20, 14:00

To thse who double here is the follow up:

Spoiler

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Posted 2015-October-20, 15:19

Now I bid 6S. Am I chicken?
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Posted 2015-October-20, 16:40

View PostFluffy, on 2015-October-20, 14:00, said:

To those who double here is the follow up:
Spoiler
Few will have an agreement about this sequence. So we must assume our expert partner is on our side and try to interpret his intentions. 2 possible meanings:
  • Major support and a good hand e.g. K x x x K Q x x A K Q x x -
  • Club control and good s e.g. K K x x A K Q J T x x x -

Now I rank
  • 7N. Landy slam try. (Whatever partner has, he should have a good hand).
  • 6N. Ditto but allow some wriggle room.
  • 5N. Take Fluffy's advice and transfer the blame.
  • 6. Ditto.
  • 6. A practical shot if partner bids with Tramtickets :)
  • Pass. Expose the psych :)

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Posted 2015-October-21, 04:02

View PostFluffy, on 2015-October-20, 14:00, said:

To thse who double here is the follow up:

Spoiler


5NT (pick a slam)

If partner bids 6 I bid 6.
If partner bids 6 I bid 7 and over 7 I bid 7. This hopefully suggests that I do not know whether we should play 7 or 7.
If partner bids 6 I raise.
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Posted 2015-October-21, 08:28

View Postphil_20686, on 2015-October-20, 06:04, said:

I'd double now, and would regard this dble as GF, so if your partner responds 4d that is forcing. If partner bids something other than 4d I am going to drive a slam. If he bids 4d I will bid 4S and give up.

Do you mean this? If 4 is GF, is this not stronger than 5? I might drive to a slam over 4 but not 5.

On the given problem, 5
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Posted 2015-October-22, 09:35

What do you think is the best auction on the hand?

I will provide mine, but I don't think it is worth much. IMO 4NT should be natural, but I knew partner didn't intend it that way. I should had also bid 7NT at some point.


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Posted 2015-October-22, 09:47

Did Spades break 5-1?
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Posted 2015-October-22, 11:01

View PostfromageGB, on 2015-October-21, 08:28, said:

Do you mean this? If 4 is GF, is this not stronger than 5? I might drive to a slam over 4 but not 5.

On the given problem, 5


No 4d is just what you do when you have opened a wk NT with 3343 or something, and you want to make sure that responder will bid a 5cM if he has one. wk NT opposite 5-4 or even 5-3 in the majors is just so common here that its worth a bid just to transfer the problem back.
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Posted 2015-October-22, 11:03

View PostFluffy, on 2015-October-22, 09:35, said:

What do you think is the best auction on the hand?

I will provide mine, but I don't think it is worth much. IMO 4NT should be natural, but I knew partner didn't intend it that way. I should had also bid 7NT at some point.




4N surely showed a good hand with two places to play, so usually 6-4 ish in diamonds and a major. After 6d surely east knows for sure that west has a v good hand with hearts and diamonds, so why not try 7H?
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