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#1 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2015-January-07, 17:31



scoring is MP

if it matters lefty is expert righty advanced and partner is intermediate

please comment if you disagree with x

and what now from South

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Posted 2015-January-07, 18:30

I would try 1NT, but certainly 2♣ is reasonable to avoid playing 2♥ on a 5-1 fit.
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Posted 2015-January-07, 22:44

View Posteagles123, on 2015-January-07, 17:31, said:



scoring is MP

if it matters lefty is expert righty advanced and partner is intermediate

please comment if you disagree with x

and what now from South

many thanks

Eagles


I am bidding 2NT here (upgrading JD, and 5th C). Let's see if better bidders agree.
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Posted 2015-January-07, 22:54

View Postbiggerclub, on 2015-January-07, 22:44, said:

I am bidding 2NT here (upgrading JD, and 5th C). Let's see if better bidders agree.

We agree. I think this is a bit too good of a hand to just double and rebid 1NT (showing a hand too good to O/C 1NT).
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Posted 2015-January-08, 03:25

I don't agree this is worth an upg if playing X-then-1N as 18-20. Entries to partner's hand may be few and far between and our clubs need a lot of effort to set up.

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Posted 2015-January-08, 03:45

Playing X->1NT as 19-21 it felt like the upgrade to 2NT idea was a joke. Probably a good idea to post ranges on a problem of this type.
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Posted 2015-January-08, 05:00

We need very little from partner to make 3NT. Give him J♣ and we likely have 4♣+ 3♦ and so if partner has ♥QJxx(x) we are likely home. If I conservatively bid 1N we might not get to a good 3N game. At imps I would bid 2N at MP I will reluctantly (but in tempo) bid 1NT.
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Posted 2015-January-08, 08:37

View PostWackojack, on 2015-January-08, 05:00, said:

We need very little from partner to make 3NT. Give him J♣ and we likely have 4♣+ 3♦ and so if partner has ♥QJxx(x) we are likely home. still down. If I conservatively bid 1N we might not get to a good 3N game. At imps I would bid 2N at MP I will reluctantly (but in tempo) bid 1NT.


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Not only I can grant you ♣ J + QJxxx♥, but also I can make clubs split friendly for you and at the top of it I can grant you a ♦ lead so you don't have to worry about an entry to dummy for finesse. Even if RHO holds AQ ♠ they can manage to hold you down to 8 tricks,
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Posted 2015-January-08, 09:51

View PostMrAce, on 2015-January-08, 08:37, said:

FYP

Do you realize you are praying for specific cards, such as ♣J + QJxx ♥ and still can't see you are not even remotely cold for making 9 tricks? If you are gonna wish something, at least wish something that actually makes it a decent game.

Not only I can grant you ♣ J + QJxxx♥, but also I can make clubs split friendly for you and at the top of it I can grant you a ♦ lead so you don't have to worry about an entry to dummy for finesse. Even if RHO holds AQ ♠ they can manage to hold you down to 8 tricks,


Furthermore, if partner has more than those cards, partner can move over our call. Personally, I like 1N and hopefully partner won't hand us with rebidding hearts.
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Posted 2015-January-08, 13:01

What's wrong with 2♣??
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Posted 2015-January-08, 13:18

View PostZelandakh, on 2015-January-08, 03:45, said:

Playing X->1NT as 19-21 it felt like the upgrade to 2NT idea was a joke. Probably a good idea to post ranges on a problem of this type.


If x followed by 1NT is 19-21 then yes that is the path. And it may be the path anyway. The fact that 1♦ may be the start of a sequence showing a strong balanced hand probably should have been weighed before I responded.
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Posted 2015-January-08, 14:08

1NT.
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Posted 2015-January-09, 06:38

well I bid 2c in hindsight I thought 1N was better and it prooved so as 2c was + 1 whereas 1N was + 2 so a much better MP score

no way really of getting to 3N p just happens to have the perfect cards

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Posted 2015-January-09, 06:43

View Posteagles123, on 2015-January-09, 06:38, said:

no way really of getting to 3N p just happens to have the perfect cards

I guess that means upgrading to 22-23 really was the winner on this hand then...
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