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Pass or Pull?

Poll: Pass or Pull? (9 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (5 votes [55.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.56%

  2. 5C (4 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

  3. 5H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   killer_ 

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Posted 2014-November-17, 04:46

MPs, All Vul


How do you rate North's hand in defense? What should North do?

First X: 4+ hearts
Second X: N/S play forcing pass in this situation, so x shows a minimum hand for the bidding.
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Posted 2014-November-17, 07:35

Difficult hand not knowing about the huge club fit after ths double and LHO bidding it all alone. Partner could have a D lenght, but we have no H tricks to speak of. I would pull to 5C frankly, partner likely has 3. Rather nice flop for never having bid.
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Posted 2014-November-17, 15:53

Better for South to show the club fit, if available, with an inverted raise.
Or North to mini-splinter(not to everyone's liking) and the double dummy defence could be found.
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Posted 2014-November-17, 17:33

Too tough for me, I'm -790.

East bid solo and got lucky. West couldn't even scrape up a 2♠ bid????

If it's a long imp match, this pair will not survive. Luckily my partner (deep finesse) leads Ace and a small diamond. B-)
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Posted 2014-November-18, 08:18

My gripe is with North's 2H bid. Much better to jump raise 3H (showing a shapely hand with 5+C and 4+H). Now South will know to bid rather than defend.

With all HCP based invites I'd start with 2S.
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Posted 2014-November-18, 16:53

View PostWesleyC, on 2014-November-18, 08:18, said:

My gripe is with North's 2H bid. Much better to jump raise 3H (showing a shapely hand with 5+C and 4+H). Now South will know to bid rather than defend.

With all HCP based invites I'd start with 2S.


If south knew his partners hand he would certainly want to defend. The DK is almost always on our right on this auction. We will usually take 1 heart and 3 diamond tricks, not always sometimes hearts are 5-0 and righty is like 7051 but it's matchpoints and overall we will typically go + vs 4S X and minus at the 5 level.

Souths double seems totally fine with that diamond holding. The fact that the opponents bidding had no relation to what their hands was is unfortunate.
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#7 User is offline   killer_ 

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Posted 2014-November-21, 04:58

Thanks for the replies! Seems like opinions are really divided on this one.

Are there any opinions or advice in general in choosing to defend with 6-4 or 5-5 hands?
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Posted 2014-November-21, 07:56

My opinion is that you shouldn't be playing forcing pass here, and if you are you should have a better agreement than double shows a minimum.

However, the problem on this layout isn't our system, it's East's lucky guess that West has twice failed to bid spades when he should.
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Posted 2014-November-21, 08:10

Aren't we taking first 4 tricks?
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2014-November-21, 09:52

View Posteagles123, on 2014-November-21, 08:10, said:

Aren't we taking first 4 tricks?


That's with highly double dummy defence..
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Posted 2014-November-21, 12:38

am I seeing this right???

West has two super-fillers, yet she passes throughout.. and it's overcaller who, in the dark, self-propells himself into a (making) sac?
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