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Bidding the slam IMP Pairs

#21 User is offline   CamHenry 

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Posted 2014-July-11, 01:43

Thanks for the suggestions, all!

We were playing a possible-canape precision system, so W had an easy (minimum) 1 opening. We proceeded:
Good raise


Most pairs will have been playing Acol of some description; I suspect a lot of auctions went P-1S/1N-2H/4H-end.
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Posted 2014-July-11, 04:04

I play precision, to the auction is a little weird

West East
-Pass
1-1
2-2
3-3NT
4-5
5-5
5-5NT
6-Pass

1= 16+HCP
1= 5+hearts, 8+HCP
2= 3+Hearts, asking to build # of controls A=2, K=1
2= 0-2 controls
3= Control asking bid in clubs
3NT= I have the ace of or a void in
4= CAB in diamonds
5= I have the ace of or a void in
5= do you have the ace or the void
5= I have the void
5= CAB in spades
5NT= I either have Qxx or a doubleton in
6= To play
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Posted 2014-July-11, 06:29

To summarize:
pass-1 (strong)
1-1NT (relay....)
...-....
...-...
4-4NT (2506, blackwood)
...-....
...-6
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Posted 2014-July-11, 14:07

My regular partner and I would have this auction. 1 ... 2 (5 spades and 4+ hearts, game forcing)...3 (setting suit)...3...3nt (serious)...4 ... 4...4 (nothing left to say)... 6 (well if you can't show me the K then we are fine here.
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Posted 2014-July-11, 14:13

View Posthmcclain98, on 2014-July-11, 04:04, said:

I play precision, to the auction is a little weird

West East
-Pass
1-1
2-2
3-3NT
4-5
5-5
5-5NT
6-Pass

1= 16+HCP
1= 5+hearts, 8+HCP
2= 3+Hearts, asking to build # of controls A=2, K=1
2= 0-2 controls
3= Control asking bid in clubs
3NT= I have the ace of or a void in
4= CAB in diamonds
5= I have the ace of or a void in
5= do you have the ace or the void
5= I have the void
5= CAB in spades
5NT= I either have Qxx or a doubleton in
6= To play



Isn't this a 2 opener? something like 2...2 (asking)...3 (5 and longer )...4 (end signal)...4 forced...6.
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Posted 2014-July-12, 00:31

May I ask the mathematicians what is the percentage of success taking into account the violent distribution the opponents also may have and the MARKED trump lead? Drury is out of question since there is no 3 card support in spades.It is easier to give various sequences leading to 6H when we see all cards.It is very difficult on the table.Partner does not know your exact honor holding in the 3 suits.You may be through or going down in 6 hearts.And if opponents are wise enough they will bid the grand in diamonds.What do you do now? Bid 7H?
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Posted 2014-July-12, 00:56

View PostCamHenry, on 2014-July-09, 07:55, said:

Your choice of system. None vulnerable; S deals and passes.



How does your auction proceed? NS are silent throughout.

As a variation, N makes a minimum sufficient bid in diamonds at her first turn, which S then raises to 5. I was surprised that we were the only pair in the room to find 6.



Pretty easy after Wilkosz.

2d. 2nt

3c. 3d

3h 3s

3n 4c

4s



resp asks and opener shows the shape up to 4s. Now 4nt is a control ask.


"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2014-July-20, 19:05

View PostCamHenry, on 2014-July-11, 01:43, said:

Most pairs will have been playing Acol of some description; I suspect a lot of auctions went P-1S/1N-2H/4H-end.

If you respond to 1 with an Acol 1NT on this hand you just have to follow up with 4 rather than 4 to show how your hand has grown up. For most Acolites (who have never heard of Drury other than it being previously banned as a psyche control) the West hand would be worth a 2 response too.

Since we are now onto Wilkosz, it looks like Muiderberg might also work, something like 2 - 2NT; 3 - 3; 4 showing a max with 5 hearts, 5+ clubs and a diamond void ought to be enough to encourage East to go for it.
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Posted 2016-January-02, 13:44

View Postbluechip10, on 2014-July-09, 17:22, said:

I have been a Marty Bergen fan since I met him many moons ago. Then I read his book POINTS, SHMOINTS. To open, he taught the rule of 20. Add up your HCP, then add the number of cards to that in the two longest suits. If it adds up to 20, then open. Ever since I started doing this, I have found games and slams that would never have been found otherwise. So, without further ado:

W--E
1--1
2--2
3--4NT (0314)
5--6

9 HCP plus 6 plus 5=20. All of my regular partners open the same way.

If i don't remember wrong this book in Italy had to be titled "Non contate i punti" talking about defence bidding and suggest to make so it and, than, not for the line of ending declarer but just on regard opp. Is it right ?
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Posted 2016-January-02, 14:33

Our auction would get really messy as 1-1-2-2 is how we bid a 5521 6 count, better hands go via an artificial 2, and it gets murky fast as to exactly when hearts are agreed.
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