Setting the movement ACBL club level, though I don't think it matters
#1
Posted 2014-April-30, 16:03
It's a club game, so I don't really care if the movement wasn't the best. It just seems odd to me to curtail the movement in one section for the reason given (so both sections would have the same number of rounds). Comments?
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Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#2
Posted 2014-April-30, 16:12
blackshoe, on 2014-April-30, 16:03, said:
I understand playing the same number of boards in each section.
For what its worth, if I had two sections I would play 7.5 table hesitation mitchell playing 9 rounds, and 9 table mitchell playing 9 rounds.
"Robin Barker is a mathematician. ... All highly skilled in their respective fields and clearly accomplished bridge players."
#3
Posted 2014-April-30, 16:28
I may be missing something, but all making the # of rounds the same in both sections does for you is to avoid any factoring in the overall scores - and the computer will take care of that anyway.
I like your choice of movements, but these folks don't think of things like that. They stick to what's familiar, and a hesitation Mitchell doesn't qualify - although IMO it should.

As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#4
Posted 2014-April-30, 16:44

Please come back to the live game; I directed enough online during COVID for several lifetimes.
Bruce McIntyre,
#5
Posted 2014-April-30, 18:05
#6
Posted 2014-May-01, 07:31
#7
Posted 2014-May-01, 08:54
#8
Posted 2014-May-01, 11:42
I agree with RMB, unfortunately, the hesitation mitchell isn't in the standard set of movements in ACBLScore (I had to make it for my own self). Frustrating, because it's such a beautiful one. Having said that, if we want to do anything sane, we'll have to arrow-switch *both sections*, making it a one-winner movement (because the hesitation mitchell is a one-winner movement already). RMB's players just assume that's going to happen anyway; I expect pitchforks again, on this side of the Pond.
#9
Posted 2014-May-01, 13:13
blackshoe, on 2014-April-30, 16:03, said:
The director is confused about something. Web movements work just fine with half tables, and a 16.5 table game run as a 17-table web would be far preferable to what happened. (Or if there are only 2 sets of boards, a 16 table web with a bump is also possible.)
#10
Posted 2014-May-01, 13:19
barmar, on 2014-May-01, 08:54, said:
Clubs I have played in think playing 26/27 boards is the norm.
"Robin Barker is a mathematician. ... All highly skilled in their respective fields and clearly accomplished bridge players."
#12
Posted 2014-May-01, 13:27
barmar, on 2014-May-01, 13:23, said:
Locally, 7:05 to 10:30. In London, 7:30ish to 11ish.
"Robin Barker is a mathematician. ... All highly skilled in their respective fields and clearly accomplished bridge players."
#13
Posted 2014-May-01, 14:31
McBruce, on 2014-April-30, 16:44, said:

There were two other sections and a total of 39 1/2 tables in this game, and only two TDs - one of whom spends most of her time fiddling around in the kitchen. Do you really want the other TD to be playing?
Why he did what he did, I don't know - as I said he wouldn't discuss it. I think he was annoyed with himself.

As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#14
Posted 2014-May-01, 14:42
barmar, on 2014-April-30, 18:05, said:
My understanding is that they did run a full movement in the 8 table section, and it was a by stand Mitchell. The 8 1/2 table section played a straight Mitchell with an EW sitout at table 9.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#15
Posted 2014-May-01, 14:43
fromageGB, on 2014-May-01, 07:31, said:
We try to play at least 24 boards, preferring 26 or 27, and there is not normally (and was not this week) a time constraint.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#16
Posted 2014-May-01, 14:46
mycroft, on 2014-May-01, 11:42, said:
I agree with RMB, unfortunately, the hesitation mitchell isn't in the standard set of movements in ACBLScore (I had to make it for my own self). Frustrating, because it's such a beautiful one. Having said that, if we want to do anything sane, we'll have to arrow-switch *both sections*, making it a one-winner movement (because the hesitation mitchell is a one-winner movement already). RMB's players just assume that's going to happen anyway; I expect pitchforks again, on this side of the Pond.
Pitchforks or worse.

As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#17
Posted 2014-May-01, 14:49
jeffford76, on 2014-May-01, 13:13, said:
There were only two board sets available. Well, that's not entirely true. There were four sets, but two of them went to the "299er" event, which also had two sections.
I think he just didn't think of any of those options.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#18
Posted 2014-May-01, 20:06
I have observed two directors in the past year using Webs when they had full tables and splitting sections when they had half tables (these were 20-24ish table games). It had me convinced there was some reason a web with a half table didn't work -- but I sure can't think of one.
#19
Posted 2014-May-02, 00:53
Siegmund, on 2014-May-01, 20:06, said:
So that players are compared with others who have played the same boards as them?
Siegmund, on 2014-May-01, 20:06, said:
Me neither - it works fine, but it does help to know from the start how may you are going to have.
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