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Is it normal for my 2d without GIB explanation?

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Posted 2014-April-05, 01:00



My questions are at below:

1- Is it normal for my 2d without GIB explanation?
Actually I clicked so fastly,misclicked 2.I am wondering wether all bids have its explanation.
2- How to count 3 as 10-12 total points?
3 was alerted as invitational jump raise -- 4+H,4+D,10-12 total points.while is trump,how to count its total points?
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Posted 2014-April-05, 04:04

A+K+Q = 9

Then +1+1 for two doubletons



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Posted 2014-April-05, 08:45

View Post1eyedjack, on 2014-April-05, 04:04, said:

A+K+Q = 9

Then +1+1 for two doubletons



Many thanks.
I remembered that Max Hardy had ever said that experts add points to long suit instead of short suit generally,Marty bergen add points to short suits in dummy.


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Posted 2014-April-05, 09:50

View Postlycier, on 2014-April-05, 08:45, said:

Many thanks.
I remembered that Max Hardy had ever said that experts add points to long suit instead of short suit generally,Marty bergen add points to short suits in dummy.




It may be what they teach, but I don't think that they apply any such simplistic rules when they play. I think experts tend to discard point systems pretty much when evaluating their hand, and just go with gut feel, with the possible exception of opening in No Trumps (and come to think of it, even then).

GIB however very definitely relies, and slavishly at that, on its total points based on shortages + HCP



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"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
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Posted 2014-April-05, 10:35

View Postlycier, on 2014-April-05, 01:00, said:


1- Is it normal for my 2d without GIB explanation?
Actually I clicked so fastly,misclicked 2.I am wondering wether all bids have its explanation.


I've got no idea what 2 should mean. You couldn't bid 1 over 1 (Why not ???). It's basically an impossible bid.
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Posted 2014-April-05, 20:50

The GIB documentation explains how it counts total points: HCP + shortness: 1 point for each doubleton, 2 points for each singleton , 3 points for each void. The shortness points are reduced by 1 if the short suit includes a high honor.

So West has 9 HCP + 2 shortness points = 11 total points. Humans often discount shortness in suits partner has bid, but GIB doesn't do this.

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