[Fluffy]

Pass is obvious but for the first 14 days of the poll open nobody voted for it without the slow tempo, and only 3 did with the tempo issue.

[nige1]

FrancesHinden, on 2014-March-27, 16:03, said:

At the table, 3NT was selected and conceded 1100. The alternative of double is also -1100 because partner is 4333 and will bid 3S, and RHO has AKQ10x of them.

the hog, on 2014-March-27, 18:15, said:

I am sorry Frances posted the result. This hand is a totally obvious pass. You have a minimum, you have no source of tricks and your shape is poor. Seriously, why bid on this trash? The result was well deserved.

Jinksy, on 2014-March-28, 06:51, said:

This is a strange comment coming from someone who keeps complaining about people on these forums who don't agree with expert/majority opinion.

Lord Molyb, on 2014-March-28, 13:00, said:

I agree with the hog here, pass is obvious.

Public polls are more interesting because you can see who voted for what but, as of now, the vote is 30-1 in favour of bidding. A pity that theHog and Molyb didn't share their wisdom with us, before Frances posted the result, to save the rest of us from embarrassing ourselves

[MrAce]

the hog, on 2014-March-27, 18:15, said:

I am sorry Frances posted the result. This hand is a totally obvious pass. You have a minimum, you have no source of tricks and your shape is poor. Seriously, why bid on this trash? The result was well deserved.

It is OK Hog, there was such a little time between the dates Frances posted the OP and your reply, we all understand how it can be missed before the results were posted, while you replied ***** loads of other topics.

[the hog]

No problems MA and Nigel. Just keep on bidding on trash like this and conceding your 1100s. Anyone who reads any of my posts would know that I do not bid on a 4333 16 count with a tenuous stopper and 3 tricks in my hand.
When I was young and foolish and couldn't play the game properly, I might also have bid 3NT; then I started playing with an excellent player, an English international whose name would be well known to Frances. He imbued me with many ideas about bidding, including not bidding on trash like this. He also taught me to overcall more frequently with the boss suit. I guess his ideas must have worked, as his previous partner won a couple of world championships.

[the hog]

Jinksy, on 2014-March-28, 06:51, said:

This is a strange comment coming from someone who keeps complaining about people on these forums who don't agree with expert/majority opinion.

Do I? Hardly! I have my own opinions.I do however not suffer fool gladly.

[Jinksy]

Yes, one rule for you, one rule for everyone else. I wasn't accusing you of consistency.

[whereagles]

3NT wtp?

Slow tray is not completely irrelevant: if pard hesitated, the bid is safe. If RHO hesitated, it need not be because he's strong. He could be considering some sort of psyche if weak. So there is a *slight* tendency for the bid to be safer than with normal tray tempo.

Still, I'm willing to jump onto the bidding because (1) I have more than a min opener and (2) I'm vulnerable.

[the hog]

Jinksy, on 2014-March-31, 06:10, said:

Yes, one rule for you, one rule for everyone else. I wasn't accusing you of consistency.

Perhaps someone could interpret my original post for you.
As I posted before, "I do not suffer fools gladly."

[PhilKing]

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Jeff Sapire quoted this hand in a thread about the Doctors on BridgeWinners. Wladow's decision to pass 3♦ out is indeed remarkable. The hand has much better prospects than the one we Frances asks about - holding Axx in the preempt suit gives is much more control of the hand. The point is when we are able to shut out lefty, we will often make game on less than 25 points, but it partner has an 11 count with two small opposite our Qxx, we can lose the first six tricks.

I held the hand discussed in this thread and would like to think I would have passed out 3♣, but West did not preempt at my table.

[the hog]

I would also pass this hand. It has no source of tricks and only one D stopper. I know Mr Ace wil bid 3NT in a huff or perhaps even a minute and a huff.
Now this is a 3NT bid:
Qx
KT4
Axx
AKJxx

[nige1]

the hog, on 2014-April-15, 03:42, said:

I would also pass this hand. It has no source of tricks and only one D stopper. I know Mr Ace wil bid 3NT in a huff or perhaps even a minute and a huff. Now this is a 3NT bid:
♠ Q x ♥ K T 4 ♦ A x x ♣ A K J x x

If that's a 3NT bid, then is this is a better one?
♠ Q ♥ K T x ♦ A x x x ♣ A K J x x
Because now, it's more likely that the partnership has a ♠ stop?