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After a Fantunes 1D opening (unbalanced, 14+, F1) we play a jump to 2H as 0-5. So after 1D 1H / 2D 2H N has basically shown his hand.
Do you bid again as opener? If so, do you accept an invite as N?
At one other table I spoke to, playing a natural system, they reached game after 1D 1H / 3D 3H. I don’t know yet what the room did.
In theory, 3D here is virtually identical to the Fantunes hand type that would have bid as above, perhaps with a fractionally better suit (else in natural you might rebid some number of NTs if P was covering your weak spot), so I’m not sure what happened here. Did the ‘naturals’ overbid and get lucky, or did they judge the hands better than us? Or was the difference just that being a level higher gave them slightly less to lose by bidding on, and that actually all our actions were sound?
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Fantunes vs natural Do you bid game?
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Posted 2014-March-12, 07:48
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Posted 2014-March-12, 12:46
I think I'd raise hearts. Not sure what I'd do as North. It's minimum but my values are all in my suit so I know they are working.
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Posted 2014-March-12, 13:32
In fantunes, 1♦-1♥-1NT shows any 18+HCP. This means you can choose between 2♦ and 3♦ for your first rebid. I'd probably go with 2♦ (the ♦ suit isn't solid enough imo) after which I can raise responder's ♥s showing a max hand.
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Posted 2014-March-12, 16:49
We play 3D as showing something like 18-20 with a good suit and three card support for P (I think it came from Gerben's version).
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Posted 2014-March-12, 16:50
How would you bid it in nat, anyway? 3H over 3D looks pretty pushy to me, esp at MPs.
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Posted 2014-March-12, 19:51
Jinksy, on 2014-March-12, 16:50, said:
How would you bid it in nat, anyway? 3H over 3D looks pretty pushy to me, esp at MPs.
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Posted 2014-March-13, 05:07
Jinksy, on 2014-March-12, 16:50, said:
How would you bid it in nat, anyway? 3H over 3D looks pretty pushy to me, esp at MPs.
Passing 3♦ looks pretty pusillanimous to me, esp. at MPs.
Honestly natural bidding pushes you more or less into game with these hands for better or worse.
Fantunes gives you a choice and scope for judgment (called "error" if you guess wrong).
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