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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2014-February-22, 11:04

Federico Goded wrote a famous article in 1999 called All Bridge in One Hand, where one simple hand with a simple problem morphed slowly from beginner level towards world class in 10 steps.

Now he has expanded the series from 10 to 40 hands. And you can play find all the hands on my website, look for them on the Courses section, or just click here: http://www.bridgegod...set.php?setid=7

The difficulty is normally increasing, so if you are good you might want to start from the middle or better.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 12:37

Checking it out now, I will edit in what I think later.
Deal #
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was easier than I expected.

This post has been edited by Lord Molyb: 2014-February-22, 13:37

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Posted 2014-February-22, 12:56

I'm getting frequent (though not reliable) error messages when I try and load a new hand.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 13:15

NIcely done, sir. Wish I could give more than one up-vote. Minor point re the page design: It took me a while to find the vertical scroll bar to get to hands 5+. Very thin strip with same background colour. (Opera)
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2014-February-22, 13:20

Is there any commentary? On some of these the NS hands look identical, so I'm not really sure why I'm supposed to follow different lines between one and the next.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 13:26

I enjoyed these. Shades of bridgemaster.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 16:09

#
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was really easy too.

First one I actually got wrong was #35, played for the wrong squeeze. Then #36 stumped me, a lot harder than I thought.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 16:33

View PostJinksy, on 2014-February-22, 13:20, said:

Is there any commentary? On some of these the NS hands look identical, so I'm not really sure why I'm supposed to follow different lines between one and the next.


You are suposed to find a single line that makes on all lie outs (or switch when you see some break or the like), look at how FGoded plays the boards for more info.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 16:38

View PostLord Molyb, on 2014-February-22, 12:37, said:

Checking it out now, I will edit in what I think later.
Deal #
Spoiler
was easier than I expected.


Just out of curiosity, do you remember if you cashed A before winning K in dummy?, I had some discussion with my father about his percentages, he claimed that you should test for Jx before cashing dummy's third club winner, but my calculations said that inmediate loss from 5-1 was too dangerous. There was another hand with same NS cards but different lie out where LHO had [i]Jx and xx. I ended up changing that one board.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 16:45

View PostFluffy, on 2014-February-22, 16:38, said:

Just out of curiosity, do you remember if you cashed A before winning K in dummy?, I had some discussion with my father about his percentages, he claimed that you should test for Jx before cashing dummy's third club winner, but my calculations said that inmediate loss from 5-1 was too dangerous. There was another hand with same NS cards but different lie out where LHO had [i]Jx and xx. I ended up changing that one board.

No, I played the king first.
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Posted 2014-February-22, 17:03

View PostFluffy, on 2014-February-22, 16:33, said:

You are suposed to find a single line that makes on all lie outs (or switch when you see some break or the like), look at how FGoded plays the boards for more info.


But as far as I can see eg Bs 4 and 5 have identical N/S cards. Why does the solution differ?
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Posted 2014-February-22, 17:29

View PostJinksy, on 2014-February-22, 17:03, said:

But as far as I can see eg Bs 4 and 5 have identical N/S cards. Why does the solution differ?

The point is to find a solution that makes against both distributions.
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Posted 2014-February-23, 10:16

Thanks, this was fun.
Some comments:
- I think it would be better to show all cards immediately after the claim and before hiding them by show results.
- Is there an undo (fi after misclick)?
- I didn't find how to show the play of FGoded

View PostFluffy, on 2014-February-22, 16:38, said:

Just out of curiosity, do you remember if you cashed A before winning K in dummy?, I had some discussion with my father about his percentages, he claimed that you should test for Jx before cashing dummy's third club winner, but my calculations said that inmediate loss from 5-1 was too dangerous. There was another hand with same NS cards but different lie out where LHO had [i]Jx and xx. I ended up changing that one board.

Playing A looses if:
x: 12.12%
and wins if both:
Jx : 16.14%
xx: 15.4%
Maybe this is not complete (and how do I calculate total %?), but it feels that it is better not to cash A
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Posted 2014-February-23, 11:00

I started at the beginning and while this is a nice series at the
the beginning (making sure you heave the trump 7 in hand for repeated
trump finesses :)) by hand 22 (where I stopped) the final contract was
so ridiculous the umm err "world class" players expected to make the
contract needed some advanced bidding lessons on how to stay out of
such ridiculous contracts. I am sure it does nothing but get worse
and worse and worse. Good exercise for imagination maybe but by board 22
it was already in the trivial pursuit realm.

I found the programming features well done though keep up the good work:)

As an aside--I noted some people said they could claim---I could not find
this feature anywhere and robotically playing the final 4 to 7 tricks was kind
of irritating (ok at first but after 10 15 20 hands sheeshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Posted 2014-February-23, 11:16

I think that there is a bug in hand 33. You can make it by playing like a complete moron:
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Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-February-23, 12:02

I think that there is a bug in hand 39. Not quite so moronic a play but it works:
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Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-February-23, 12:04

View Postgszes, on 2014-February-23, 11:00, said:

by hand 22 (where I stopped) the final contract was
so ridiculous the umm err "world class" players expected to make the
contract needed some advanced bidding lessons on how to stay out of
such ridiculous contracts.


If it helps, perhaps picture it as Matchpoints and you are in 4S trying to make 6 for a higher percentage?
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-February-23, 12:46

Perhaps it detracts slightly from the elegance of the hands that in some cases they rely on misdefences.
Hand 40, for example, is beaten by a Club lead at trick one. But that is churlish. The actual lead is perfectly normal.
Perhaps less forgivable is hand 39, where either minor switch at trick 2 beats it.


Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-February-23, 13:52

Thanks, that is a big bug you detected. I instructed defender to not ruff so that if you don't tap yourself you end up endplayed in your hand. Obviously this is moronic if he is 4th in hand. Gonna change it now.

For the claim button to appear you need to hide the a trick when all outstanding trumps are out and you have enough top winners. To hide a trick you need to click anywher on the screen after it has finished except a playable card for next trick.


Same happens for showing full hand, just click anywhere at the end and it will show up.

EDIT: Fixed now, hope I Didn't break something on the proccess :)
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Posted 2014-February-23, 16:23

View PostFluffy, on 2014-February-23, 13:52, said:

For the claim button to appear you need to hide the a trick when all outstanding trumps are out and you have enough top winners. To hide a trick you need to click anywher on the screen after it has finished except a playable card for next trick.

That's very counter-intuitive, it would be good to fix that.

Also, while it's a great site - I hope you don't mind an honest opinion: I really don't like the colours. Maybe that's the kind of thing where an new person who hasn't been involved in the site development so far can give useful input.
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