[mgoetze]

Opponents open a strong 1NT and you are playing Woolsey, thus 2♦ shows 6+ in a major and 2M shows 5 of the major with a 4-card minor.

Before I show you my hand so you can tell me how I ought to have bid it I'd like to ask for your interpretation of 2 bidding sequences:

(a) (1NT)-2♦-2♥; 3♣-3♥; 3♠-...

(b) (1NT)-2♦-2♥; 5♣

[gnasher]

(a) (1NT)-2♦-2♥; 3♣-3♥; 3♠-...

3♣ is a game try with an unknown major and a side 4-card club-suit.
3♥ is a signoff opposite hearts
3♠ shows spades

(b) (1NT)-2♦-2♥; 5♣

Non-existent, unless Exclusion with hearts agreed is possible. I'd probably pass it, but I'd look at my hand first.

[PhilKing]

Over 2♥ one can play 2NT as hearts and a minor, too strong for 2♥ direct and 3m as the same with spades, so overcaller has spades and clubs on sequence a).

b) shows a void club and seven diamonds. Partner is assumed to be able to guess your major. It can't show clubs, of course, since partner might pass 2♦ on a blizzard with long diamonds.

[nige1]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-25, 09:04, said:

Opponents open a strong 1NT and you are playing Woolsey, thus 2♦ shows 6+ in a major and 2M shows 5 of the major with a 4-card minor.
Before I show you my hand so you can tell me how I ought to have bid it I'd like to ask for your interpretation of 2 bidding sequences:
(a) (1NT)-2♦-2♥; 3♣-3♥; 3♠-...
(b) (1NT)-2♦-2♥; 5♣

IMO

• Game-try (or possibly game-force) 6+ ♠, ♣ trial-bid (or possibly cue-bid).
• Exclusion 6+ ♥, ♣ void.

[mgoetze]

So far, so good.

Now, the hand BBO just dealt me at bidding practice:

♠- ♥AKQTxxx ♦- ♣KQTxxx

Is there any sensible way to bid this?

[cloa513]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-25, 16:35, said:

So far, so good.

Now, the hand BBO just dealt me at bidding practice:

♠- ♥AKQTxxx ♦- ♣KQTxxx

Is there any sensible way to bid this?

2♦ followed by 4♦cue. Continue past partner bidding 4♥ by bidding 6C.

[gszes]

I would start with 2d showing the 6+ card major and follow 2h with 6c if p cannot bid
7c (or 7h if they have support for both majors) find a partner with more imagination.
They must assume your major is self sufficient.


The other sequences leave too much room for interpretation and risk getting passed
out a way too low a level. Yes I do indeed think this hand is so good that 6 should be
the minimum I would bid.

[nige1]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-25, 16:35, said:

So far, so good.
Now, the hand BBO just dealt me at bidding practice:
♠- ♥ A K Q T x x x ♦- ♣ K Q T x x x
Is there any sensible way to bid this?

2♦ then 6♣?

[mycroft]

Pardon me, I don't know this system, not having enough monsterpoints to guarantee playing Mid-Chart. If 2♦ then 6♣ shows this hand, what shows the hand with the majors switched? In other words, how do I show spades without partner passing a contract I don't want?

[jeffford76]

It can't be right to start with 2♦. Partner is likely to pass.

[Fluffy]

1NT- 6♥ looks like a good start . Someone having 4 hearts seems unlikely, more worried about a singleton club lead.

What is double on this methods?

[PhilKing]

jeffford76, on 2013-August-26, 09:59, said:

It can't be right to start with 2♦. Partner is likely to pass.

I thought that, as stated above. Although a quick sim proved this was quite possible (but not likely), LHO inevitably bid spades, so we escape that way.

My strategy is to start with 2♥ and take it slow, hopefully ending in a doubled slam on a murky auction.

[mgoetze]

Fluffy, on 2013-August-26, 11:27, said:

What is double on this methods?

4-card major with 5+ minor.

[gszes]

jeffford76, on 2013-August-26, 09:59, said:

It can't be right to start with 2♦. Partner is likely to pass.

2d (using this system) shows 6+ in an unspecified major and with an
unspecified amount of power. Passing 2d should be an act of pure
desperation with no support in either major and a very weak hand
with ling diamonds x x xxxxxxx xxxx or some such. Even a hand
like x x KQJxxx xxxxx should consider keeping the bidding alive
via 2h or 3d just in case p is strong.

[jeffford76]

gszes, on 2013-August-26, 20:29, said:

2d (using this system) shows 6+ in an unspecified major and with an
unspecified amount of power. Passing 2d should be an act of pure
desperation with no support in either major and a very weak hand
with ling diamonds x x xxxxxxx xxxx or some such. Even a hand
like x x KQJxxx xxxxx should consider keeping the bidding alive
via 2h or 3d just in case p is strong.

I play this method, and I don't agree with this. KQJxxx of diamonds with 1-1 majors is a clear pass. You've interfered with their NT, and you've found a playable spot.

[Zelandakh]

Is it no longer part of Woolsey that double followed by 2NT shows a big hand?

[benlessard]

I would just keep my agreement after a (1S)--2H overcall. 3m show a good minor (AKJx or better) while 2NT is a normal 4card suit. Knowing the quality and lenght of the minor help reaching 5m instead of 3Nt.

I think its pointless to show wich M you hold, 95% of the times advancer knows and even if he doesnt its often not a big deal anyway.

So A = 6S+good clubs

B= Club void note that having a D void you would be too scared of bidding 2D but 5C is a clearcut void for me.

[benlessard]

I play this method, and I don't agree with this. KQJxxx of diamonds with 1-1 majors is a clear pass. Yep bidding 2H/3D is lunacy.

[jallerton]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-25, 16:35, said:

So far, so good.

Now, the hand BBO just dealt me at bidding practice:

♠- ♥AKQTxxx ♦- ♣KQTxxx

Is there any sensible way to bid this?

What would a 2NT overcall of 1NT show in your system? For many people it shows a game-forcing unspecified 2-suiter.

[lamford]

jallerton, on 2013-September-20, 16:10, said:

What would a 2NT overcall of 1NT show in your system? For many people it shows a game-forcing unspecified 2-suiter.

For us, both minors, a game-forcing two-suiter or a single-suited slam-try. Then advancer bids as though it is both minors, and then, assuming advancer bids 3D:
a) 3H = hearts and not spades; then advancer asks with 3S
b) 3S = spades and not clubs; then advancer asks with 4C
c) 3NT = clubs and spades or both minors; then advancer asks with 4C (he has already indicated he prefers diamonds to clubs)
d) 4 any = single-suited slam-try in that suit.