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Overheard at the Spingold

#41 User is offline   pran 

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Posted 2013-August-15, 15:22

We have been using Bridgemate for years in Norway, the system is very flexible and I cannot imagine any movement in bridge that is not supported by the Bridgemate system.

Whether the scoring program used includes the necessary support is of course a different question.
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Posted 2013-August-15, 22:25

I'd be surprised if the ACBL isn't trying to remedy this incompatibility; I doubt they like the delays and extra work of manually entering scores any more than the players do.
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Posted 2013-August-16, 08:38

My impression is that the ACBL are techno dinosaurs, I would be surprised if catching up in the technology area has any priority at all.
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Posted 2013-August-16, 08:57

Yeah, the last word that comes to mind when you say ACBL is "nimble".
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Posted 2013-August-16, 09:59

My (completely uninformed) guess is that they are waiting to add support in the software until they finish ACBLScore+, rather than devoting energies on two fronts.
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Posted 2013-August-16, 10:47

View Postgnasher, on 2013-August-15, 10:57, said:

"While ACBLscore does not currently support 'Remote score entry' for team games, most other scoring programs used around the world have integrated the use of Bridgemates for team games."

Yet somehow it works with BridgePads.

Let's hope this gets resolved in ACBLScore+.

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Posted 2013-August-16, 13:08

Let's hope ACBLSCore+ hits the streets sometime before 2020.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 11:12

View Postblackshoe, on 2013-August-16, 13:08, said:

Let's hope ACBLSCore+ hits the streets sometime before 2020.

I ran into Nicholas in Atlanta, and I got the impression he's in the home stretch.

I asked a director this weekend about why ACBL dumped BridgePads at Nationals. He said, "Because they suck" (exact quote); I didn't press for details. I asked about how they'd managed in the past to use them for Swiss Teams, when ACBLScore doesn't support remote entry. He explained that BridgePad comes with its own software for running Swiss Teams. When the event is over, they copy the results into ACBLScore. BridgeMate doesn't have analogous software.

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Posted 2013-August-19, 12:31

One of the big issues we've had with BridgePads is that in a big room, especially with two computers receiving scores, the dropout rate is very high. Another one is that if the BridgeMate software refuses to start a session, you kill it, check all the connections, restart it, and it works; if the BridgePad software refuses to start, it's black candles and goat's blood time.

One minor - but incredibly annoying - issue with the Pads is that the "N/S put in score" button and the "E/W agree" button are the same. *Everybody* double-hits "NEXT" at least once, many frequently (and the odd one consistently, because how could he be wrong?)

But they do work well for Swiss Teams, and their software integrates into ACBLScore for Swiss Teams.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 12:53

View Postmycroft, on 2013-August-19, 12:31, said:

if the BridgePad software refuses to start, it's black candles and goat's blood time.

I have found that, after checking the plug-ins at both the remote and the laptop, I can simply delete and recreate the sections (not the session) ---and the remote will enable. Takes about 20 seconds per section.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 14:00

Black candles are easy to come by. Goat's blood not so much, but it's not impossible. ;)
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