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Deal #23 AK5 AQJ3 K96 A32

#1 User is offline   straube 

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Posted 2013-January-29, 20:53

You are South and third seat. V vs NV. Uncontested auction.


..............................J97
..............................642
..............................T73
..............................J987
Q864..............................................T32
K95.................................................T87
Q542..............................................AJ8
54...................................................KQT6
..............................AK5
..............................AQJ3
..............................K96
..............................A32



Outcomes

1N S Silent Club
1N S SCREAM
1N S TOSR
2N S Zelandakh
2N S New Big Club (HK)
2N S Polish Club
1N S OCP
2N S Jasmine Club
2N S Unassuming Club
2N S Malfoir
2N S jack502
1N S Imprecision
2N S Moscito
2N S Meckwell Light

1N S Pass2000 (2-way 1C opening after forcing pass)
2N S Precision by the_clown (2N opening)
2N S Precision by Free (2N opening)
2N S relknes (2N opening)
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Posted 2013-January-29, 20:56

Silent Club:

P-1♣ yup, thats a pass; strong
1♦-1N 0-7, some GFs; 19-21 bal
P
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Posted 2013-January-29, 20:56

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-29, 20:53, said:


..............................J97
..............................642
..............................T73
..............................J987
Q864..............................................T32
K95.................................................T87
Q542..............................................AJ8
54...................................................KQT6
..............................AK5
..............................AQJ3
..............................K96
..............................A32


SCREAM uses its 3/4 structure...

1C-1H 16+, 0-2 QPs
1N-P 16-21 bal or semi-unbal
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Posted 2013-January-29, 21:19

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-29, 20:53, said:

You are South and third seat. V vs NV. Uncontested auction.


..............................J97
..............................642
..............................T73
..............................J987
Q864..............................................T32
K95.................................................T87
Q542..............................................AJ8
54...................................................KQT6
..............................AK5
..............................AQJ3
..............................K96
..............................A32

p - 2N
P

Translation:
N: pass, S: 20-21 balanced
N: no, I realy meant PASS
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Posted 2013-January-30, 00:24

1nt S for tosr

P-1♣ : <10 unbal or <12 bal; any 16+
1♦-1♥ : 0-7 or occ 8+ with <2 ctls; kokish ♥ or big balanced
1♠-1nt : forced response; 19-21 balanced
P : sounds good to me, hopefully there is exactly 7 tricks to maximally beat the 2nt openers :)
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Posted 2013-January-30, 00:36

Precision: 2NT all pass
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Posted 2013-January-30, 02:53

Also a 2NT opener for me, showing 20-21.
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Posted 2013-January-30, 03:06

P
... - 1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
1♦ = most non-GF
... - 2NT = 21-22 bal
(-: Zel :-)
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Posted 2013-January-30, 09:47

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-29, 20:53, said:

You are South and third seat. V vs NV. Uncontested auction.


..............................J97
..............................642
..............................T73
..............................J987
Q864..............................................T32
K95.................................................T87
Q542..............................................AJ8
54...................................................KQT6
..............................AK5
..............................AQJ3
..............................K96
..............................A32


Pass 2000
1C - 1D; (1C 0-7 / 17+ in response to partner's initial 0-7 / 17+ pass)
1H - 1S; (1H 20+ unbal or 21+ bal, 1S 0-4 any or 5-7 bal)
1N - all pass; (21-23 bal)
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Posted 2013-January-30, 11:10

Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

pass - 1♣
1♦ - 2NT
pass

Explanation:
1♣ = 16+, not a balanced 16-20
1♦ = relay, denying several one or two suited hands with 0-7 HP
2NT = 21-22 balanced

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Posted 2013-January-30, 11:51

1♣-1♦-1N is 18-20 for me so opener will have to rebid 2N (21-23) instead... too bad.
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Posted 2013-January-30, 15:58

OCP


1♣ - 1♦
1♥ - 1♠ 19+balanced or will qualify in future bid, relay
1N 19-21 balanced
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Posted 2013-January-30, 17:23

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-29, 20:53, said:

#23. You are South and third seat. V vs NV. Uncontested auction.
Jasmine ♣.
North ♠ J97 ♥ 642 ♦ T73 ♣ J987: _P 1♦ 1♠
South ♠ AK5 ♥ AQJ3 ♦ K96 ♣ A32: 1♣ 1♥ 1N
  • 1♣ = Art, Strong, 16+.
  • 1♦ = Art, Neg, 0-7.
  • 1♥ = Art, Relay. 18+
  • 1♠ = Art, 0-7 Flat or 5-7 with 5+ suit.
  • 2♣ = Art, Relay. 20+
  • 2♦ = 0-4 Flat.
  • 2N = 20-22 Flat.
Marks, IMO: 1N = 10, 2♥ = 9, 2♣ = 7, 2N = 4.
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Posted 2013-January-30, 21:55

Malfoir and Unassuming have the same auction here;

1C-1D
2NT-P (21-22, may include 4CM)

(19-20 is 1C-1D-1H-1S-1NT, 23-24 is 1C-1D-1H-1S-2NT.)
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Posted 2013-January-31, 00:43

View Postnige1, on 2013-January-30, 17:23, said:

Marks, IMO: 1N = 10, 2♥ = 9, 2♣ = 7, 2N = 4.


Why do you add these nonsense marks? I don't know why you think so highly of 2♥, but 2♥ is even worse than 2NT because you don't have ruffing value, while your opps may (and in fact, in the given hand West can ruff a ♣)... :unsure:
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Posted 2013-January-31, 04:07

1♣1♠
2nt



1♠=dbl negative
2nt 21-22 balanaced.
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Posted 2013-January-31, 09:09

View PostFree, on 2013-January-31, 00:43, said:

Why do you add these nonsense marks? I don't know why you think so highly of 2♥, but 2♥ is even worse than 2NT because you don't have ruffing value, while your opps may (and in fact, in the given hand West can ruff a ♣)... :unsure:

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I make it clear that my marks are merely my subjective opinion, FWIW. Apparently not much :( Free's assessment may well be more realistic :) Anyway, IMO, we would benefit from assessments of contracts reached - preferably as a result of simulation.
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Posted 2013-January-31, 09:19

Missed this one earlier

MOSCITO is also

1♣ - 1♠
2N
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Posted 2013-February-01, 00:51

IMprecision:

1♣ - 1♦ (strong; 0-4 or bal GF or 7+RP)
1♥ - 1♠ (4+♥ or 21+ bal; 0-4, not very shapely)
1NT - ? (21-23, bal)

I would pass with the 4333 two jacks, but it is a judgment call. If responder invites, we will stop in 2NT. Also, note that if opener's majors were reversed, we will also end in 2NT, since opener would bid 1♠ over 1♦ and we cannot stop in 1NT then.
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Posted 2013-February-01, 01:09

Does this problem finally come down to:
- whether a 2NT opening is a strong balanced or not
- if yes, then what the range of 2NT is
- if 1♦ is negative, whether a 1♥ rebid is natural or 2-way or simply second round forcing
- if 1♠ is double negative, what the range of 2NT rebid is

And do people use their own invented system here?
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