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#1 User is offline   alandoug 

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Posted 2013-January-25, 13:10

Here is the sequence:
w n e s
1H 2C 2S 3C
P P 3H ?

Is 3 Hearts forcing or not
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Posted 2013-January-25, 13:23

Forcing

Edit: Also promises real heart support
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Posted 2013-January-25, 14:10

This is not an interesting bridge hand. Also, 3♥ should be forcing if 2♠ was forcing and double would have been for takeout.
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Posted 2013-January-25, 16:06

I lean towards it being forcing, but in general I think 13+ Mayor support should be given via cue-bid.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2013-January-25, 17:53

2S was forcing one round.
3H is competitive .... not forcing .
3D would have been forcing ( " new suit at 3-level by unpassed partner " )
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Posted 2013-January-26, 08:35

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2013-January-25, 17:53, said:

2S was forcing one round.
3H is competitive .... not forcing .
3D would have been forcing ( " new suit at 3-level by unpassed partner " )


I agree with this he's inviting game but not forcing, how else do you invite game and compete to 3h)

He could have bid 3c, but maybe game relies on you having a double fit and so mentioning his 5 card suit along the way helps you co-operate.

It also puts you in a good spot when they keep bidding clubs. You'll know if you should bid on or double if they bid again.
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Posted 2013-January-26, 09:36

View Postbigbenvic, on 2013-January-26, 08:35, said:

I agree with this he's inviting game but not forcing, how else do you invite game and compete to 3h)

Well you could Double and then bid hearts; or just start with a cue raise. How many ways of inviting partner do we need?
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Posted 2013-January-26, 09:40

responder's new suit is forcing a round,but not for opener generally,3h implied some values in ♠ suit,it is not forcing and constructive raise .
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Posted 2013-January-26, 09:41

Forcing for me.

With, say, five spades, three hearts and a flat 11 count I would bid 3♣ first time.

Playing Acol it would be NF though.
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