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Posted 2012-June-08, 00:29



You are south, dummy is East, partner leads J declarer winning A. Declarer plays 2, partner 10 (std carding)

a) what do you do if dummy ducks 10?
b) what do you do if dummy covers with Q?
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Posted 2012-June-08, 01:46

Overtaking and shooting the spade back seems like automatic thing to do.
With some luck we will lock declarer in hand and take 3 heart tricks if he is 5-Jxx-xx-AKx or something.
I fail to come up with any layout when it matters assuming all players played rationally though.
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Posted 2012-June-08, 16:35

I overtook and played a trump, and losed a trick due to that, I think that if you think just a bit deeper you will find the right defence.
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Posted 2012-June-09, 11:31

I really fail to see significant layout unless declarer played us for AK second failing to put up the queen of diamonds.
Could you please post the full hand ? I am curios.
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Posted 2012-June-09, 12:59

The answer was to kill dummy's entry before diamonds were high. Just ducking 10 would work if declarer doesn't put the queen.



I won the diamond and played a spade, then declarer played more diamonds and it was late for clubs now, another diamond set a trick in dummy, and a heart was pitched on 4th diamond after ruffing a club in dummy.
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Posted 2012-June-09, 13:09

Nothing you can do if he covers the diamond. He tried to give your partner an entry for a heart through but you overtook :P

I think you don't need to figure out the hand exactly to realize not to overtake, you have an entry in both red suits as well as a tenace in both red suit. There is no rush to play a trump, there could be a rush to get a heart through/not set up the diamonds
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Posted 2012-June-09, 14:53

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-June-09, 13:09, said:

Nothing you can do if he covers the diamond. He tried to give your partner an entry for a heart through but you overtook :P

You can play clubs untill you make dummy ruff, that way 3 diamonds, 2hearts and 2 spades cash. Remember partner led J
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Posted 2012-June-09, 14:54

View PostFluffy, on 2012-June-09, 14:53, said:

You can play clubs untill you make dummy ruff, that way 3 diamonds, 2hearts and 2 spades cash. Remember partner led J


nope!

edit: but seriously partner has no entry you just get endplayed into playing a red suit.
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Posted 2012-June-09, 16:09

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