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#1 User is offline   kayin801 

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Posted 2012-May-15, 16:57



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I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2012-May-15, 17:50

I admit I would have passed the x as North. Getting 500 might depend on the heart spots that West has.
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Posted 2012-May-15, 20:13

If deciding not to pass for penalty, 1NT is too little; 2NT is the bid, if not 3NT.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 03:44

View PostStatto, on 2012-May-15, 20:13, said:

If deciding not to pass for penalty, 1NT is too little; 2NT is the bid, if not 3NT.

Yes, you can hardly have more for a neg 1♦. I might have given a 1♥ positive as QJ10xx+A > 7 in my book.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 04:39

I had not mind missing 3 NT, it works so well because you have so many fitting tens. Take some away and you better stay low.

Besides this I dislike north bidding, 1 ♥ instead of 1 ♦ looks normal and passing with 23+ HCPS and such great seems to be right. Second choice 2 NT to show a super maximum 1 ♦ bid.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 05:24

North is playing a different game.

Options for me are pass>3NT>2NT>show positive first round.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 06:47

Not passing with the north hand is bizarre.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 08:46

100% blame to North here with a hand that some responders (I'd bid a max 1♦) would have bid a positive 1♥.

North has an easy pass of 1♥X or lacking in confience in the partnership's defensive abilities he can jump to 2NT. I'd pass 1♥X quite happily.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 10:40

FWIW the 1H bidder had something like Qxx, AKxxx, Jxxx, x so he could scramble 6 tricks. Then again if the defense doesn't give you anything I guess 3NT might not come in on a bad day (alternate distribution) since we might not get 2 dummy entries for getting that heart trick and we might lose 2 spades.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2012-May-16, 21:53

I would always do a penalty pass with 5 trumps over a negative double.
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Posted 2012-May-21, 03:14

I lean toward a penalty pass too. If I have to bid I am bidding 2♥ not 1N. 1N should show distributed values. For all we know we own the ♥ suit. Besides, we should work to have partner declare NT. Over partner's expected 2♠ response, 3♥ would show a real suit and allow us to play 3N or 4♥ when right. I've had Easts overcall on 4 cards many times.

This hand has nice intermediates but I would not upgrade it to a positive response.
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