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Any takers?

Poll: Any takers? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. I double - No one keeps me out of the auction! (except when it comes to opening the bidding) (18 votes [75.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  2. I'm a total wuss .. pass (6 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

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#41 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2011-September-09, 15:26

 VM1973, on 2011-September-08, 17:01, said:


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-Complete max non opener
-No spade honor
-Good defense
-Four hearts
-Not vulnerable

1. Well you have 24 ZPs so all right.
2. Agreed.
3. I disagree. You have 1.5 quick tricks - that's not what I consider "good defense" against a 3-level contract.
4. Agreed.
5. Irrelevant.


Vulnerability is hugely relevant. One thing I've changed a lot in my bidding over the last few years is to take much more account of vulnerability, not just in opening pre-empts and marginal game decisions (the 'traditional' times) but in 1-level openings, overcalls... everywhere.

Being NV here is very important. One of the things that can go wrong with doubling is when partner has a weak-NT type hand (like some of the ones you've been suggesting) and you have no real fit and go 2 or 3 off undoubled - undoubled because you have quite a few high cards and trumps don't fall over, but you are just lacking length tricks and have too many spades. NV that is -100 or -150 which might be basically flat against 140, or cost 5 imps against 3S-1; if you are vulnerable it's now -200 or -300 and the downside is noticeably worse. And if they are going to double, I'd definitely prefer to be NV.

I voted for double, but the thing that makes me most nervous about it is the doubleton spade; that's what I really hate. Partner knows that I nearly always have a singleton and will evaluate accordingly. But then I'd have opened this hand, so it's much rarer for me to have a hand with a doubleton for a protective double... if we are conservative openers, then partner will act accordingly.

p.s. I'd have opened this hand as we are NV. I probably wouldn't have opened vulnerable. Another example.
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Posted 2011-September-09, 15:56

 FrancesHinden, on 2011-September-09, 15:26, said:

Vulnerability is hugely relevant. One thing I've changed a lot in my bidding over the last few years is to take much more account of vulnerability, not just in opening pre-empts and marginal game decisions (the 'traditional' times) but in 1-level openings, overcalls... everywhere.


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