[MrAce]

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I played this hand 6♠ making +1, but i misplayed it at the table ( for +1 )

Assume u end up in 7♠ after the auction proceeded the way it is in diagram, opponents being silent after 2 NT showing minors.

Lead ♥ 6 , you play low from dummy and ruff in hand.

Play your grandslam ( LHO has the remaining ♠T, and RHO when u test ♥ will show he started with Qx)

[Mbodell]

 MrAce, on 2011-June-04, 00:52, said:

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I played this hand 6♠ making +1, but i misplayed it at the table ( for +1 )

Assume u end up in 7♠ after the auction proceeded the way it is in diagram, opponents being silent after 2 NT showing minors.

Lead ♥ 6 , you play low from dummy and ruff in hand.

Play your grandslam ( LHO has the remaining ♠T, and RHO when u test ♥ will show he started with Qx)

This isn't the right line, but it is what I think I'd play at the table:

Dummy | Hand
T1 ♥3 | ♠A
T2 ♠J | ♠9
T3 ♥8 | ♠K
T4 ♠4 | ♠2
T5 ♥A | ♣T
T6 ♥K | ♣9
T7 ♠8 | ♠3
T8 ♠6 | ♠Q
T9 ♦7 | ♠7
T10 ♥9?♦4? | ♠5

If west had one or more of the diamond KQ he can guard diamonds and hearts with east guarding clubs and if East had both diamond honors west can keep a heart and 2 clubs and east both diamond honors - but I should be able to read this if West drops 4 diamonds and then pitch the diamond from dummy and squeeze West on the diamond A. But this line isn't great as W is likely to have one of the diamond honors.

[CSGibson]

I'm going to run all the trump after trumping 2 hearts in hand, pitching so that this is the end position on the last trump:

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If LHO has a diamond honor I'm cold. He will have to pitch down to 3 hearts and either 2 diamonds or 1 diamond and 1 club to make sure I don't have a simple finesse of the J of diamonds for trick 13. On the last trump I pitch a club from the dummy, cross to dummy with a club, and complete the double squeeze by playing off the heart honors.

If LHO does not have a diamond honor, then Righty will have to have all of the minor suit honors or lefty will have had to pitch badly in clubs to make a simple squeeze work.

[gnasher]

 Mbodell, on 2011-June-04, 01:46, said:

This isn't the right line, but it is what I think I'd play at the table:

This is the ending that you've reached:

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If East started with both diamond honours, you have a double squeeze with clubs as the pivot (cash ♠2 and ♦A); if the diamond honours were divided you have a guard squeeze (cash ♠2 discarding a heart after West unguards clubs, then play a club to the ace) . You don't have to decide which to play for until after you've seen West's discard on the last trump.

That looks like the right line to me.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2011-June-04, 04:31

[MrAce]

 CSGibson, on 2011-June-04, 02:43, said:

I'm going to run all the trump after trumping 2 hearts in hand, pitching so that this is the end position on the last trump:

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If LHO has a diamond honor I'm cold. He will have to pitch down to 3 hearts and either 2 diamonds or 1 diamond and 1 club to make sure I don't have a simple finesse of the J of diamonds for trick 13. On the last trump I pitch a club from the dummy, cross to dummy with a club, and complete the double squeeze by playing off the heart honors.

If LHO does not have a diamond honor, then Righty will have to have all of the minor suit honors or righty will have had to pitch badly in clubs to make a simple squeeze work.

The reason u seem to need all ♣ honors to be in East, is because the way u played u dont know how many ♥ he started with. If you knew, you cld still make when he doesnt have all ♣ honors, but i am not sure, i will check it later.

[CSGibson]

 MrAce, on 2011-June-04, 03:46, said:

The reason u seem to need all ♣ honors to be in East, is because the way u played u dont know how many ♥ he started with. If you knew, you cld still make when he doesnt have all ♣ honors, but i am not sure, i will check it later.

I know he's started with at least 2 hearts (ruffing the opening lead & ruffing 2nd one back later after crossing with a spade). Really, the question is whether opening leader started with a diamond honor or not. I am inclined to place him with a diamond honor, because he was more likely to lead diamonds from 3 or 4 small on the auction than a small heart from JTxxx(xx), especially when partner doesn't make a lightner X. Also, if diamonds split 6-3, I believe it's about 50% a priori about whether the person with 6 has any specific 2 cards, but if diamonds split 5-4, then playing for split honors is a much bigger favorite.

[CSGibson]

 gnasher, on 2011-June-04, 03:40, said:

This is the ending that you've reached:

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If East started with both diamond honours, you have a double squeeze with clubs as the pivot; if the diamond honours were divided you have a guard squeeze. You don't have to decide which to play for until after you've seen West's discard on the last trump.

That looks like the right line to me.

What happens in your end position if diamond honors are split and Lefty pitches down to a club, 2 diamonds, and a heart, while righty keeps 2 diamonds and 2 clubs?

[gnasher]

 CSGibson, on 2011-June-04, 04:12, said:

What happens in your end position if diamond honors are split and Lefty pitches down to a club, 2 diamonds, and a heart, while righty keeps 2 diamonds and 2 clubs?

I go down. Now I understand why everyone else thinks this hand is a problem.

[barryallen]

 gnasher, on 2011-June-04, 04:40, said:

I go down. Now I understand why everyone else thinks this hand is a problem.

I may be obtuse here, but is there a problem? When you play the last ♠ from hand, RHO will keep his ♥, allowing you to discard the ♥ in dummy. When you lay down the ♦A and you have not seen the ♦KQ, you are left with no option but to rely on ♣? You can vary the end play by discarding dummys ♦ on the last ♠, but to no real effect.

I just don't see anything concrete here, with a psuedo squeeze being the most viable option or a derivative of such? Look forward to this one being revealed.

[Fluffy]

The only guard squeeze I've ever been at the table, I was sadly the victim (pavlicek the executer). How much guard squeezes have people ever done?

This hand I would have played for the inferior automatic double squeeze when east has ♦KQ.

[MrAce]

Gibson has the right idea. The way we should handle this hand depends on how we think ♦ honors are split.

The way i played at the table, like most of you suggested, i made 13 tricks because East had both ♦ honors. But i also said i misplayed it when i posted the hand, because i believe i shd have played it just like Gibson suggested... When i recognized that i was going down if ♦ honors were split, i tried but did not see a safe line that makes regardless of ♦ honors..I confess i did not see the line Gibson suggested untill after it was too late and i already cashed AK ♥( once u decide to play for ♦ honors split, we need to not cash both ♥ honors, one is enough) So in a way i had to play East for KQ ♦...Oh and of course, i was only in 6♠

[benlessard]

maybe im wrong but it seems anytime West have 5H im ok (auto double squeeze) and if East has 5H i need him to have KQ of D

[benlessard]

 benlessard, on 2011-June-06, 01:16, said:

maybe im wrong but it seems anytime West have 5H im ok (auto double squeeze) and if East has 5H i need him to have KQ of D

Ive seen my mistake i was hoping for

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But this position isnt possible with north on lead.

[benlessard]

West jsut has to keep the same lenght of H with dummy and diamonds. The only squeeze is when East has 5H and KQ of D or west misdefend and keep a club.

[whereagles]

 Fluffy, on 2011-June-04, 13:12, said:

The only guard squeeze I've ever been at the table, I was sadly the victim (pavlicek the executer). How much guard squeezes have people ever done?

A grand total of 0.

But I've made 1 ruffing squeeze and 1 throw-in winkle. Beat that

[nige1]

MrAce's Pretty Guard Squeeze
(simplified)

With no trump or spades trump, South cashes spades, discarding hearts.
If West discards a heart, then dummy's hearts are good.
If West discards a club, then dummy's Aces perform a double squeeze.
If West discards diamonds, then declarer finesses diamonds,

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