[raist]

your hand is

KQxxxx
-
xxx
Qxxx


bidding goes (no interference)
1H-1S
2D

now do you prefer to rebid 2S or pass 2D? and why?
what are the things to consider?
if it matters, scoring is IMPs and all vul

[whereagles]

2♠, on grounds pard can have 2 or 3 spades, which is (I think) more likely than him having 5 diamonds.

[Jlall]

2S, not only do I think it rates to be a better partial than 2D by far if the auction were to always end, I also think we might often make 4S if partner is going to try for it. If he bids 3H I might regret this...or I might not...but that's one scenario.

[pooltuna]

raist, on Dec 20 2009, 06:10 AM, said:

your hand is

KQxxxx
-
xxx
Qxxx


bidding goes (no interference)
1H-1S
2D

now do you prefer to rebid 2S or pass 2D? and why?
what are the things to consider?
if it matters, scoring is IMPs and all vul

I think 2♠ is your best choice because a) with 3541 your partner may be able to make a game try with a 7 card fit (4-3♦ or 6-1♠) the hand will play better with the longer suit holding as well as the weaker hand c) partner is more likely to hold x54y than x55y and 0544 is much more unlikely since partner might have called 2♣. I think this "logic " would apply to either MP or IMPS. For MP a 6x4y might be tougher to choose.

[MTSummit]

2S can't be bad choice, your partner has at least 1 spade (otherwise he would have bid 2C or 2H)

[gnasher]

MTSummit, on Dec 20 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

2S can't be bad choice, your partner has at least 1 spade (otherwise he would have bid 2C or 2H)

Unless he was 0553 or (depending on strength and agreements) 0643.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2009-December-20, 12:39

[MTSummit]

gnasher, on Dec 20 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

MTSummit, on Dec 20 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

2S can't be bad choice, your partner has at least 1 spade (otherwise he would have bid 2C or 2H)

Unless he was 0553

ah nice spot on, but he would probably bid 3D, it won't hurt

[mikeh]

MTSummit, on Dec 20 2009, 01:39 PM, said:

gnasher, on Dec 20 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

MTSummit, on Dec 20 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

2S can't be bad choice, your partner has at least 1 spade (otherwise he would have bid 2C or 2H)

Unless he was 0553

ah nice spot on, but he would probably bid 3D, it won't hurt

no he won't.....not without a good hand.... with most 0=5=5=3 hands he will and should pass...when misfits loom, stop bidding....is often the best advice.

[bftboy]

2♠ at IMPs, game is still possible, and worth a small minus to explore it. At MPs, I'd think about passing to protect a plus score, but I'd still bid 2 ♠. Game is still possible, and if the hand makes 90 or 110 in ♦, perhaps it will make 110 or 140 in ♠.

[TylerE]

2♠, wtp? If we have game, it's surely in spades, but there's a more important point here. This hand might be essentially worthless as dummy in 2♦, beyond xxx of trumps. It might not take a single trick, whereas opener will surely have some tricks for 2♠. Not hard to come up with layouts where 2♦ is down, with 8, 9, maybe even 10 tricks in ♠.

[P_Marlowe]

2S.

I have 6 of them, if p finds a 3S bid, I am happy.

The adv. of 2S is, that it keeps the bidding open, allowing you to
find game (4S), if p is max. for his call.
Game is more likely, if you play a style, where you dont regular
raise responders major with 3 card support, if you do, the chances
that p happens to hold 3 spades are lowered.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[neilkaz]

I'll bid 2♠ at any form of scoring.

[aguahombre]

mikeh, on Dec 20 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

with most 0=5=5=3 hands he will and should pass...when misfits loom, stop bidding....is often the best advice.

Carrying a good idea too far. Maybe carry it even farther and pass 2D??

2S is right. Partner then bidding 3D with 0553 is expected.

[jdonn]

aguahombre, on Dec 24 2009, 12:17 PM, said:

mikeh, on Dec 20 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

with most 0=5=5=3 hands he will and should pass...when misfits loom, stop bidding....is often the best advice.

Carrying a good idea too far. Maybe carry it even farther and pass 2D??

2S is right. Partner then bidding 3D with 0553 is expected.

If he has extras. If he has a minimum it's both suicidal (for all he knows we will have to bid a frustrated 3♠), and makes it impossible to effectively show extras if you have them (without using 3♣ which then can't be used for other purposes).

Of course passing 2♦ out of fear of a misfit is silly. We don't know there's a misfit, we may even have a 9 card spade fit. But when we bid and rebid partner's void after we had a chance to support either of his suits, HE knows there is a misfit.