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#1 User is offline   DWM 

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Posted 2009-September-26, 13:58

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After taking two and a half years out of playing bridge to help my wife with our young family this is one of the first hands I pick up in my first tournamnet back.

Bidding all with us this is the sout hand

1 - 1
3 - 3
4NT - 5 (two without Q)
7

What to do next?
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Posted 2009-September-26, 14:06

pass?
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Posted 2009-September-26, 14:06

pass
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Posted 2009-September-26, 14:45

Hi,

Pass.

The problematic bid is 3D, since 3C did already create a GF
situation, 3S is certainly an option.
Now bidding on is a pure guess, but it is understandable, that
you dont want to lay down a 8 card suit.

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Posted 2009-September-27, 00:22

I have the nuts of all time, how can this not be cold?
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Posted 2009-September-27, 02:01

The rusty bit from this hand was making 3 to ensure we are in a GF situation. Thinking about it 3 is a lot better.

I thought that 7NT was the answer as P has a / hand with 10/11 winners in those two suits so my hand is just as valuable in NT as it is in . P must have at least something in / to get into my hand otherwise he would have taken a different route to get to slam. If I leave it in clubs there is a chance of a ruff to start plus with IMP's those extra few points could make a difference.
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Posted 2009-September-27, 02:12

DEFINITELY don't pull to 7NT. You have three tricks and partner already knows about two aces. If he wanted one more trick he could have asked for kings. You should be trying for the extra couple imps on hands where you can see notrump and the suit contract will play the same, here with such wild shape and a void etc you can see it's just the opposite.

Additionally your heart void may mean partner's heart suit is not as solid as he had otherwise hoped. So you have 1 trick partner doesn't know about for notrump, and possibly cause his hand to be worth negative 1 or more tricks in notrump.
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Posted 2009-September-27, 12:34

The problem was the 3D bid. 3C created game force, now responder should describe his hand with 3S. But now, I pass.
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Posted 2009-September-27, 21:54

peachy, on Sep 27 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

The problem was the 3D bid. 3C created game force, now responder should describe his hand with 3S. But now, I pass.

Agreed,,but now you have to guess..and I have to admit that I wouldn't have felt that 4nt was RKCB for . If that is the case, did opener think that 3 agreed and was a cue bid ? For me, 3 is just patterning out.

It seems not possible to recover here after not rebidding the 8 card suit ! But PD launched into Blackwood (for me, no trump suit was agreed) and then bid a Grand and you have a king he doesn't know about and can ruff a even on a trump lead.

Just pass...PD should have real good and solid 150 honors type and a monster two suited hand that some would have opened 2
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Posted 2009-September-28, 05:04

Opener had made a GF with supposedly a strong 2-suiter.
From the final ( pass or correct ) 7C bid, I am guessing the 3D bid
may have been what he wanted to hear if he held:

x
A K Q x x x
x
A K Q J x

Then again, he still would go 4NT even on a 3S rebid.
So, it's quite possible that he may have been VOID in Sp
with 2 little Diam .
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As an aside:
I've been told that when "NO suit has been agreed" that 4NT
is "RKC for the strong jump-shifter's suit".

It wasn't made clear at the time as to "which suit -- 1st or 2nd" ?

I see that the poster here showed it was for the 2nd suit, Clubs.
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