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Qxxxx
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p-2♥*-2♠-p
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2♥ is hearts and a minor, at least 5-4.
am i insane
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Posted 2009-September-21, 16:53
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2009-September-21, 17:05
3♠? QJx xxxx x AJxxx might be a different story of course.
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Posted 2009-September-21, 18:42
Do the hand and the question relate to each other? 
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Posted 2009-September-21, 19:39
I wouldn't call 3H insane, just inferior. Prefer 3S.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 01:53
yes
3 ♠
3 ♠
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Posted 2009-September-22, 01:56
jdonn, on Sep 21 2009, 06:05 PM, said:
3♠? QJx xxxx x AJxxx might be a different story of course.
ditto
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Posted 2009-September-22, 05:34
I see 3 choices, 3S, 4S, 3H. 4S a bit aggressive and lacks a trump. 3H is too much with such soft C and lack of a 4th trump. 3S is all I really think I am worth.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 05:43
A bit. 3♠ seems the best option.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 05:52
Not qualified to answer, 3♠
2nd choice:
Not qualified to answer, 3♥
What did those men in white coats tell you?
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2nd choice:
Not qualified to answer, 3♥
What did those men in white coats tell you?
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Posted 2009-September-22, 06:49
The answer to the bridge question is 3♠.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 09:14
gwnn, on Sep 21 2009, 10:53 PM, said:
am i insane
Yes.
On the hand I feel close between 3♥ and 3♠. I feel inclined towards 3♥ but my 2♠ overcalls are sounder than most.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 10:35
3♣ is an option. Fit-bid.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 11:12
Is pass an option? Matchpoints, lousy spades (RHO has 4 over partner), 2 heart losers, maybe club losers, you may not be able to ruff diamonds at all if they switch to trumps, no entries to my clubs.
I guess it depends on what your requirements are to overcall the open, but my partners' hands may not be strong. KQxxx, xx, QJxx, Ax is consistent with partner's and RHO's bidding, and 3 is going off.
I guess it depends on what your requirements are to overcall the open, but my partners' hands may not be strong. KQxxx, xx, QJxx, Ax is consistent with partner's and RHO's bidding, and 3 is going off.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 12:13
gwnn, on Sep 21 2009, 05:53 PM, said:
we deal at game all mp's: Jxx Jxxx A Qxxxx
p-2♥*-2♠-p
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2♥ is hearts and a minor, at least 5-4.
p-2♥*-2♠-p
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2♥ is hearts and a minor, at least 5-4.
IMO
- 3♥ = 10 -- Raise to 3♠+ with defence: descriptive and co-operative
- 3♠ = 8 -- Pre-emptive but understates the offensive and defensive potential
- 4♠ = 6 -- more pre-emptive but too much defence, too few spades and insufficient power
- 3♣ = 5 -- Kenrexford's passed-hand fit non-jump. An objection to this bid is that it allows sophisticated opponents to discover their minor (mis)fit at a low level. A sensible treatment for your RHO is that he doubles your 3♣ as pass or correct
- _P = 3 -- Timorous. Could be right but such lack of faith undermines partner's confidence
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Posted 2009-September-22, 12:38
Yes, you are insane. However that doesn't relate to the question too much, I'll bid 3♠.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 12:46
kenrexford, on Sep 22 2009, 11:35 AM, said:
3♣ is an option. Fit-bid.
Fit bid ? ...as in fit-showing-jump (FSJ)? ... 3♣ is not a jump here.
[ Jdonn's Advancer example hand might be worth a 4C! FSJ ].
Or are you saying, " the only reason for a passed hand to bid a new suit ( non-jump ) is that it also shows 'tolerance' for partner's suit ." ??
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Posted 2009-September-22, 12:51
3♠ for me...support with support and I don't see this as quite good enough for 3♥
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ONEferBRID, on Sep 22 2009, 01:46 PM, said:
kenrexford, on Sep 22 2009, 11:35 AM, said:
3♣ is an option. Fit-bid.
Fit bid ? ...as in fit-showing-jump (FSJ)? ... 3♣ is not a jump here.
[ Jdonn's Advancer example hand might be worth a 4C! FSJ ].
Or are you saying, " the only reason for a passed hand to bid a new suit ( non-jump ) is that it also shows 'tolerance' for partner's suit ." ??
As a passed hand, bidding 3♣ here should show at least tolerence for partner's suit, so I assume this is what he is talking about here... I don't think it's anywhere near standard to treat 3♣ as a "Fit"-Non-Jump, however I do believe that it should be a "Tolerance"-Non-Jump.
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Posted 2009-September-22, 13:11
Strange comments. Of course, 3♣ is not a "jit-showing jump," as it is not a jump. That's why I did not call it a "fit-showing jump" but rather a "fit bid."
I also did not say it was the best option. Just that it was an option. Of course, to be an option, it must be discussed, at least as a meta-agreement. I would have this meta-agreement, personally, at least in the sense of forcing one round. Tolerance or better; ability to handle a raise of clubs.
I also did not say it was the best option. Just that it was an option. Of course, to be an option, it must be discussed, at least as a meta-agreement. I would have this meta-agreement, personally, at least in the sense of forcing one round. Tolerance or better; ability to handle a raise of clubs.
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Can't judge the sanity part.
I'd make a simple raise to 3♠. My values are a little too soft for a strong raise (3♥) and too scattered for a fit-non-jump (3♣).
I'd make a simple raise to 3♠. My values are a little too soft for a strong raise (3♥) and too scattered for a fit-non-jump (3♣).
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