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What would you bid? Local MP event
#1
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Posted 2008-September-27, 19:21
playing strong and five and a 4 card ♦ suit,
1♦ (2♠) ?
if you could also define what 3♥
and x, something, 3♥ would be too...
1♦ (2♠) ?
if you could also define what 3♥
and x, something, 3♥ would be too...
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Posted 2008-September-27, 19:35
I would bid 3♥. I think the hand is just good enough to force to game.
If I were slighly more pessimistic, I would make a negative double and bid hearts later if given the opportunity.
If I were slighly more pessimistic, I would make a negative double and bid hearts later if given the opportunity.
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Posted 2008-September-27, 20:00
3♥, this is not a minimum.
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Posted 2008-September-27, 20:39
3♥. Doubling and bidding hearts ought to show a little bit (maybe more than a little bit?) less than this, maybe something like xx KQ10xxx xx Kxx?
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Posted 2008-September-27, 21:50
I think this is a clear 3H bid, even though I am guessing what playing strong and five means. Are we playing five-card majors with a good partner?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-September-27, 22:27
han, on Sep 27 2008, 10:50 PM, said:
I think this is a clear 3H bid, even though I am guessing what playing strong and five means. Are we playing five-card majors with a good partner?
strong NT
5 card majors
could-be-short 1♣
3♥ please.
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Posted 2008-September-27, 23:47
Agree with 3♥, I don't think this is close.
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Posted 2008-September-28, 02:01
3♥
Dont like it, but likes all alternatives even less.
Dont like it, but likes all alternatives even less.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-September-28, 02:41
I will bid 3♥, but I like it a lot less than most others seem to. Even make the hand just a little bit worse and I would double instead, so I consider this near the border.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-September-28, 02:58
3♥.
Maybe we could find a better use for 2NT in this auction. Something like:
2NT = clubs, at least invitational
3C = diamond support
3D = hearts, six cards any strength or five game-forcing
3H = five hearts, exactly invitational
3S = balanced, no stop, not four hearts
Maybe we could find a better use for 2NT in this auction. Something like:
2NT = clubs, at least invitational
3C = diamond support
3D = hearts, six cards any strength or five game-forcing
3H = five hearts, exactly invitational
3S = balanced, no stop, not four hearts
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-September-28, 04:18
Clear X. 3H places far too much emphasis on the H suit at the exclusion of C. After 3NT are the 3H bidders going to bid 4C? I doubt it!
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Posted 2008-September-28, 04:29
Dbl, we have the other suits...
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Posted 2008-September-28, 05:14
The_Hog, on Sep 28 2008, 11:18 AM, said:
Clear X. 3H places far too much emphasis on the H suit at the exclusion of C. After 3NT are the 3H bidders going to bid 4C? I doubt it!
After dbl (pass) 3♦, or dbl (pass) 2NT, are you going to bid 3 non-forcing hearts, or 3 forcing hearts, or something else?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-September-28, 05:28
3♥, this hand is strong enough to show the 5th heart.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-September-28, 08:06
3H. Forcing for one round and at this level a free bid is virtually gameforcing.
Negative Double, followed by a 3H bid, shows 5+ hearts in a hand not strong enough to make a direct 3H call.
Speaking of negative doubles: a negative double does not promise the "unbid suits", it promises the "unbid major". The only time negative double promises both unbid suits is 1C (1D) Dbl. Of course other agreements can be made but I think what I play is what one might call modern standard.
Negative Double, followed by a 3H bid, shows 5+ hearts in a hand not strong enough to make a direct 3H call.
Speaking of negative doubles: a negative double does not promise the "unbid suits", it promises the "unbid major". The only time negative double promises both unbid suits is 1C (1D) Dbl. Of course other agreements can be made but I think what I play is what one might call modern standard.
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Posted 2008-September-28, 09:21
X.
This keeps both suits in the picture, over 3D,
I will bid 3H, should be forcing ...
With kind regards
Marlowe
This keeps both suits in the picture, over 3D,
I will bid 3H, should be forcing ...
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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