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pass for me ..... hardly going to be passed out unless it is favourable for our side
playing here last night in second seat at red I held
void
K9xxxx
x
A9xxxx
so I passed when dealer opened 1 D
next hand bid 1S and partner waded in with 2H !!!
opener then rebids 3C !!!!!!!
now I didn't pass!!!
my point is that with the low point count distributional hands it is often better to listen first and speak later if it seems correct , let the opps tell you what they have
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Posted 2008-September-24, 12:14
Disagree with your point and especially disagree with your initial pass on your example hand. Here is my advice in return: When you try to make a point in the A/E forum, don't bid like a beginner.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-September-24, 18:55
You got lucky on one hand. No one I know would pass the hand you posted.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 00:43
catatonic, on Sep 24 2008, 08:11 PM, said:
pass for me ..... hardly going to be passed out unless it is favourable for our side
playing here last night in second seat at red I held
void
K9xxxx
x
A9xxxx
so I passed when dealer opened 1 D
next hand bid 1S and partner waded in with 2H !!!
opener then rebids 3C !!!!!!!
now I didn't pass!!!
my point is that with the low point count distributional hands it is often better to listen first and speak later if it seems correct , let the opps tell you what they have
playing here last night in second seat at red I held
void
K9xxxx
x
A9xxxx
so I passed when dealer opened 1 D
next hand bid 1S and partner waded in with 2H !!!
opener then rebids 3C !!!!!!!
now I didn't pass!!!
my point is that with the low point count distributional hands it is often better to listen first and speak later if it seems correct , let the opps tell you what they have
This state you are in, has it lasted since Alvin Roth published his first book?
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-September-25, 08:27
well , no one you know would pass ?
does that make it right or wrong then?
I remember a hand like this against a world class player when I was a beginner ; I passed then [ only a few points I thought !]
after the hand I was asked if I was a beginner or top class , as this was a bid an advanced player wouldn't make ... ; when I admitted to the former he told me that on balance we would play the hand no more than 50% of the time , and to bid would guide the opps ; of the other 50% or so of the hands we would have a complete misfit at least a third of the time , so at least two thirds of the time it was better to pass and listen
as TR once wrote ...they talk too much
does that make it right or wrong then?
I remember a hand like this against a world class player when I was a beginner ; I passed then [ only a few points I thought !]
after the hand I was asked if I was a beginner or top class , as this was a bid an advanced player wouldn't make ... ; when I admitted to the former he told me that on balance we would play the hand no more than 50% of the time , and to bid would guide the opps ; of the other 50% or so of the hands we would have a complete misfit at least a third of the time , so at least two thirds of the time it was better to pass and listen
as TR once wrote ...they talk too much