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What's The Best Spot? And how do you get there.

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Posted 2008-January-23, 08:16

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RHO will overcall 1. What is your auction?
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Posted 2008-January-23, 08:18

6 seems like the top spot. No idea how to bid this.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 08:29

7 seems best, except on a lead...
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Posted 2008-January-23, 09:02

7 is not a bad contract even on a club lead. Assuming clubs are 4-3, run all 6 clubs. If either the J is doubleton or tripleton, or the same hand has the Q or four small hearts and the J, you are home.

There are also some squeeze chances involving the A and various red suit holdings.

Of course, on any other lead, 7 needs only a little more than 4-3 clubs.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 09:57

1 (1) 2
2 2
3 4
4 ???

That's the last point at which I have any idea what I would bid as either player.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 10:01

6d is a much better contract than a club slam. All it needs are diamonds 4-2 or 5-1 with stiff dJ.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 12:27

1-()-pass
2-2
3-???



I think this shows why passing 1 spade was a mistake lol
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Posted 2008-January-23, 12:59

ArtK78, on Jan 23 2008, 04:02 PM, said:

7 is not a bad contract even on a club lead. Assuming clubs are 4-3, run all 6 clubs. If either the J is doubleton or tripleton, or the same hand has the Q or four small hearts and the J, you are home.

There are also some squeeze chances involving the A and various red suit holdings.

Of course, on any other lead, 7 needs only a little more than 4-3 clubs.

There are only 6 s out :unsure:
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Posted 2008-January-23, 13:01

ArtK78, on Jan 23 2008, 10:02 AM, said:


Of course, on any other lead, 7 needs only a little more than 4-3 clubs.

I like my chances of the 6 missing clubs breaking no worse than 4-3 :unsure:
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Posted 2008-January-23, 13:14

My (most probable) sequence looks like this:

1 (1) 2
2     2
3     4
4     4N
6     ?

3 to show the 5th heart, and thus at least 6s.
4N would not, for me, be keycard. While I know that most players can't imagine bidding slams without keycard, for me, there is no keycard available in this auction, for two reasons: I like that in minor slam sequences, 4N is (usually) merely a forward-going, cue-bid denying move and, more pertinent to this auction, I don't like non-jump 4N to be keycard when we have no suit agreement, and we surely do NOT have suit agreement to this point.

Over 4N, anything less than 6 seems unduly conservative or misdirected. I don't think S can afford to tack on the 7th diamond, altho I confess that the bidding would be the same if my opener held AKQJxxx in diamonds.

I just don't think S can ever risk committing, earlier, to clubs.... picture 2=5=6=0 shape across the table, as one reason.

He might well, however, convert 6 to 6N... which rates to rarely be worse than 6 and may often be better: picture x KQ10xx AKJ109xx void.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 13:24

6 of a minor looks OK. 6N looks appetizing from the South side at MPs.

I don't know how to bid this. Maybe I need to be playing some ringy-dingy relay where I can discover 0571 and the K and the AKQ.

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Posted 2008-January-23, 13:54

Counting to 13 is a challenge sometimes. :)

The chances of the 6 missing clubs breaking no worse than 4-3 is, indeed, pretty good.
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Posted 2008-January-25, 13:10

This is really such a terrible hand. Here's the full layout:


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Posted 2008-January-25, 15:31

Terrible?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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