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2NT is ofcourse 15-18 but you have no further agreements, thus no minor stayman, and you're unsure whether 3♣ and 3♦ may be passed out
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big minor hand over 2D multi common sense needed
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Posted 2006-June-06, 04:12
2NT is ofcourse 15-18 but you have no further agreements, thus no minor stayman, and you're unsure whether 3♣ and 3♦ may be passed out
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Posted 2006-June-06, 04:38
5 losers opposite an average of 4 cover cards. Slam zone, but there is however a high risk of 1 ace out and 1 diamond loser, so, without any agreements, I'd just try a direct 5♣.
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Posted 2006-June-06, 06:38
3 Nt, if I am afraid, that 3 of a minor is passed out.
I am quite unsure, if this hand makes slam very often.
Pd should have two stoppers in both majors, so if he has the aces, it should be at least AQx, AJTx. If he has soft stoppers like KQxx or KJxx, slam is not making anyway...
So his diamonds may beas bad as Axx. Okay, this is a worst case scenario. But as long as I am not able to ask for KCs in diamond or show my two suiter, I hope, that slam is not making...
I really like the agreement, that a jump to 4 in a major is always a splinter or KC for this minor. Solves many problems, including this hand.
I am quite unsure, if this hand makes slam very often.
Pd should have two stoppers in both majors, so if he has the aces, it should be at least AQx, AJTx. If he has soft stoppers like KQxx or KJxx, slam is not making anyway...
So his diamonds may beas bad as Axx. Okay, this is a worst case scenario. But as long as I am not able to ask for KCs in diamond or show my two suiter, I hope, that slam is not making...
I really like the agreement, that a jump to 4 in a major is always a splinter or KC for this minor. Solves many problems, including this hand.
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Posted 2006-June-06, 07:17
3NT
I don't see a slam at our side and 6♣ tricks and a stopper in each major is 8 tricks and there will be something in ♦ or a second stopper in one of the majors.
I don't see a slam at our side and 6♣ tricks and a stopper in each major is 8 tricks and there will be something in ♦ or a second stopper in one of the majors.
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Posted 2006-June-06, 07:47
3NT
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Posted 2006-June-06, 07:50
4♣. No way you're getting me to play in NT with a 6511 unless partner knows my shape already.
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Posted 2006-June-06, 08:01
4♣. I like this hand.
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Posted 2006-June-07, 01:52
3NT. Partner usually stops the majors, especially if the contract is right-sided.
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Posted 2006-June-07, 02:04
4C.
Since you state that 4NT is BW, in which case 4C has to
be natural and forcing.
Although I doubt that 4NT as BW is common sense,
a common sense meaning of 4NT is more likely to be
quantitative.
Over a natural 4C, partner should cue with hard values,
which gives you a chance to discover, if he holds useful
diamond values.
He should although realise, that strong holdings in the
mayors are cards which wont exite you a lot.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Since you state that 4NT is BW, in which case 4C has to
be natural and forcing.
Although I doubt that 4NT as BW is common sense,
a common sense meaning of 4NT is more likely to be
quantitative.
Over a natural 4C, partner should cue with hard values,
which gives you a chance to discover, if he holds useful
diamond values.
He should although realise, that strong holdings in the
mayors are cards which wont exite you a lot.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-June-07, 07:53
Aren't methods on? I mean that 3C is stayman and transfers apply leaving 3S to be minor suit stayman. Should partner bid 3NT over 3S you could continue with 4C or even 4S (5-5+ minors slamish).
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Posted 2006-June-07, 10:09
2N is natural in this position? egads.....
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2006-June-07, 10:19
bid_em_up, on Jun 7 2006, 11:09 AM, said:
2N is natural in this position? egads.....
Isn't that completely normal? Or am I just being a silly American?
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Posted 2006-June-07, 13:47
jdonn, on Jun 7 2006, 11:19 AM, said:
bid_em_up, on Jun 7 2006, 11:09 AM, said:
2N is natural in this position? egads.....
Isn't that completely normal? Or am I just being a silly American?
I guess it just depends on your multi defense.....but 2N in the direct seat (which should require good stops in both majors, since openers suit is unknown) just seems to be much less likely to occur than a hand containing both minor suits.
And if you have 15-18 with both majors well stopped, maybe you should be waiting to see what develops instead of leaping in.......
But hey, to each their own.
[edit] PS. Most of the multi-defenses I have seen usually have 2N as being 17-19, 18-20, not 15-18 when it is given as an option for a balanced natural overcall. Not saying that none of them do, only that I dont think balanced 15-18 is a good choice.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2006-June-08, 00:48
Here in Germany Multi is quite popular, so "anybody" has a defence. I think 16-18 is the most popular range, followed by 15-17. I "never" saw 17-19 or even more.
And it is very popular to bid 2 NT natural and to pass first and bid 2 NT later for the minors. I think that this is common sense here, or at least most competent partners will understand it.
I think, that it is pretty obvious, that system will be on after 2 NT, but unluckily, Sambolino feared, that 3 ♣ or 3 ♦ may be passed out. So he surely has another agreement with his partner.
And it is very popular to bid 2 NT natural and to pass first and bid 2 NT later for the minors. I think that this is common sense here, or at least most competent partners will understand it.
I think, that it is pretty obvious, that system will be on after 2 NT, but unluckily, Sambolino feared, that 3 ♣ or 3 ♦ may be passed out. So he surely has another agreement with his partner.
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Posted 2006-June-08, 02:36
bid_em_up, on Jun 7 2006, 07:47 PM, said:
I guess it just depends on your multi defense.....but 2N in the direct seat (which should require good stops in both majors, since openers suit is unknown) just seems to be much less likely to occur than a hand containing both minor suits.
That's not my experience. I seem to get more balanced 15-18 hands than minor two-suiters in that position
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