[han]

Scoring: IMP

(3C)-3S-(p)-??

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[Walddk]

4♠. I don't leave partner in 3 with such a good fit. The thing to remember is that he has plenty of values outside spades because his overcall was based on a weak (likely) 6-card suit.

Roland

[Miron]

4♠
I don't see any other bid. Partner has 13-17 my seven and 4-card could make a game.
In Lawrence SST&WP: SST is 4, maybe less (5 can occur as well). WP 19-24 points, that is 9 or 10 tricks. At IMPS no doubt 4♠, at MP I'm not sure, pass could be better.
In Losing tricks: I have 8, partner should have 6-7 for his overcall --> 4♠

[Echognome]

Although partner should expect 7 ordinary points, he can basically expect an A and a K with an ordinary shape given the bidding thus far. Here you have 5 points working in his suit. (Although it's possible the ♠Q is wasted) The small doubleton club is not very attractive, but it's much better than having, say, your black queens reversed. It's certainly possible that game will have no play, but I cannot imagine not trying for game.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I raise, I have 2 sure tricks for partner,
+ a ruffing value and the length in hearts.

Which may or may not besufficient to make
game.


With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: 3S should show a opening hand, and
I am not talking about a borderline opening,
as in the "Post-preempt decision" thread,
(there: switch the mayors).
And altough with this hand opposite the hand
now in discussion 9 tricks is the limit (6trumps,
3 tricks n the side suite), one also sees, that with
a stronger hand,game will have play.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I raise, I have 2 sure tricks for partner,
+ a ruffing value and the length in hearts.

Which may or may not besufficient to make
game.


With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: 3S should show a opening hand, and
I am not talking about a borderline opening,
as in the "Post-preempt decision" thread,
(there: switch the mayors).
And altough with this hand opposite the hand
now in discussion 9 tricks is the limit (6trumps,
3 tricks n the side suite), one also sees, that with
a stronger hand,game will have play.

[mcphee]

I can't see the problem here, a 3 level o/c and I have KQxx of his suit, passing is losing bridge. Lets face it, this was not a lead directional o/c. We are also vulnerable, if 4S fails I will be in extreme shock.

[han]

mcphee, on Jun 2 2006, 08:15 AM, said:

I can't see the problem here, a 3 level o/c and I have KQxx of his suit, passing is losing bridge. Lets face it, this was not a lead directional o/c. We are also vulnerable, if 4S fails I will be in extreme shock.

You are not vulnerable.. the opponents are.

[awm]

Partner bid 3♠ on a hand where his spades aren't very good (I have KQ) and he isn't super-short in clubs (I have only two and there was no raise). It seems like he's bound to have a pretty good hand. Of course it's possible that 4♠ may fail:

AJTxxx
xx
AKx
Ax

But I think bidding 4♠ is still the percentage action.

[civill]

Pass first,if there was a game,my PD should not bid 3♠.

This post has been edited by civill: 2006-June-05, 21:33

[inquiry]

Point's smoints... 4♠, automatic.

[pclayton]

4♠. Probably down 1, but thats life.

[HeartA]

4♠, wtp?

[whereagles]

pclayton, on Jun 6 2006, 05:14 AM, said:

4♠. Probably down 1, but thats life.

Yup. You can't miss a vulnerable game, and there's no way to invite.

Would pass if NV.