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Posted 2006-June-02, 02:31

Matchpoints, intermediate field, both vuln.

♠ KJ9x
♥ AJTxxx
♦ T
♣ Qx

RHO you
. 3♦ . ??

Your options are just pass, dbl for take-out or some nr. of hearts, natural. You can also try 4♦, but pard will take that for a 55.

Note: pard is an ok player, but you don't know what he will make of dbl followed by taking 4♣ to 4♥.
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Posted 2006-June-02, 02:35

Pass, wtp?
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Posted 2006-June-02, 02:36

3H
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Posted 2006-June-02, 03:36

3♥. I have the right shape in the minors, and I do not double with 4-6 in the majors unless the 6-card suit is very weak.

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Posted 2006-June-02, 04:17

3♥ feels simple.

I am good enough for this.
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Posted 2006-June-02, 05:56

3♥ is clear, no real alternative.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-June-02, 06:05

Hi,

you either pass or bid 3H.
I think 3H is borderline, and porbably the
bid I would choose at the table,
but I may pass, if I would take the time to
think it over.

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Posted 2006-June-02, 06:05

Torn between pass and 3♥

I'd like a better hand for a 3 level overcall, however, I have Diamond shortage. Partner will pass with a lot of balanced hands that could produce game.
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Posted 2006-June-02, 06:09

P_Marlowe, on Jun 2 2006, 02:05 PM, said:

... but I may pass, if I would take the time to
think it over.

The ideal way of barring your partner from entering the auction on most occasions.

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Posted 2006-June-02, 06:23

3♥, a bit overbid but it was their idea to preempt...
But I have about 7 loosing tricks, this should work if partner has ♥ or ♠.
I'm not sure what I will do after 3NT from partner. Would you pass?
3♦ - 3♥ - p - 3NT
p - ?
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Posted 2006-June-02, 06:24

Miron, on Jun 2 2006, 02:23 PM, said:

I'm not sure what I will do after 3NT from partner. Would you pass?
3♦ - 3♥ - p - 3NT
p - ?

Yes, pass.

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Posted 2006-June-02, 07:22

3♥. With this shape I could also double and convert 4♣ to 4♥ but this hannd is too weak for that. Besides, if I double I won't know what to do over partner's 3NT. I don't want him to leave the double in.
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Posted 2006-June-02, 07:27

3♥
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Posted 2006-June-02, 09:53

3♥: seems clear: it is a minimum but we cannot pass. Partner will feel constrained if we pass and he has, for example, some 4=2=3=4 hand with 10+ points or so: he will be afraid to double because he cannot handle our bidding ♥ on a short(ish) suit.
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Posted 2006-June-02, 13:37

3♥ looks obvious
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Posted 2006-June-03, 16:44

Thx all:

I tried double, thinking that if I bid 3♥ and LHO raised diamonds, pard would not bid spades with 4-2 or 5-2 in the majors and a couple of points.

In retrospect, I think 3♥ is better. The situation I envisoned, where double might be better, may happen, but in all other cases where it doesn't happen, hearts will play as well as spades or better. Pard would have to have like a 4-1 in the majors for spades to play better. Unlikely.

In practice anything you bid is ok. Pard has loads of hearts and will bid them regardless :P He held:

Axx
Kxxxx
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Posted 2006-June-03, 17:49

3H. Not an overbid with 4-6 shape.
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Posted 2006-June-03, 23:53

i am worrying if pd will overbid with the hand he held. Didnt he push to 6h after your 3H?
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Posted 2006-June-05, 07:29

flytoox, on Jun 4 2006, 05:53 AM, said:

i am worrying if pd will overbid with the hand he held. Didnt he push to 6h after your 3H?

Dunno what pard would do after 3♥ because I doubled :D
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