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#1 User is offline   mikegill 

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Posted 2006-May-26, 10:50

Scoring: MP

1♠ P P ?

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Posted 2006-May-26, 10:53

Welcome, Welcome to the forums!

Pass,

Flat hand, lousy clubs, 3 spades, no NV overcall or takeout x by partner, oh well.
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Posted 2006-May-26, 10:56

Pass as well, following master mathematician Emile Borel's rule that you should only balance without major(s) on good hands.
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Posted 2006-May-26, 11:05

Pass.
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Posted 2006-May-26, 21:54

Certainly it seems that at IMPs this is an easy pass, since you're certainly not worried about missing a game, and they could have one. Also, vul at MPs, the risk is too high and -200 looks like it would be a disaster. All white MPs is certainly the only time anybody would consider bidding on this trash. Also does the quality of opponents matter to anybody? Against bad players you might be able to get away with -50 instead of -100 on bad defense.
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Posted 2006-May-27, 18:21

Pass. I probably balance too much on these kind of hands, so it really isn't close.

I have a 5332 (which sucks) and a questionable QS.

I pay off big if pard made a trap pass of 1S with a huge hand and 5 spades, but otherwise I think a pass gains.
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Posted 2006-May-27, 18:59

yes no reason to balance cant outbids spades unless you want to bid 3♣
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Posted 2006-May-28, 02:23

mikegill, on May 26 2006, 10:54 PM, said:

Certainly it seems that at IMPs this is an easy pass, since you're certainly not worried about missing a game, and they could have one. Also, vul at MPs, the risk is too high and -200 looks like it would be a disaster. All white MPs is certainly the only time anybody would consider bidding on this trash. Also does the quality of opponents matter to anybody? Against bad players you might be able to get away with -50 instead of -100 on bad defense.

Hi,

of course you may go down only -1 in 1NT,
getting away with -50, but this assumes,
partner will pass
If your partner takes you serious (i.e. gives
you 11-14), he may raise 1NT to 2 or 3 NT,
... and your -50 will turn into -150.
Besides, if you are playing against bad players,
you will most likely get a good score anyway.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-May-28, 04:17

pclayton, on May 28 2006, 12:21 PM, said:

and a questionable QS.

This is the biggest clue to passing IMO.
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Posted 2006-May-29, 01:18

White at matchpoints against questionable opposition I might well bid 1NT. I think it's very close indeed and not at all obvious to pass.

As a passed hand 1NT would be clear; sadly I'm not a passed hand.
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