[benellis58]

A_User: Regarding my "stamina": After Diana had the inspiration to create this separate thread from some posts that had appeared in another one, I felt that the least I could do in recognition of her great idea would be to post frequently here... so while I appreciate your generous compliment, I must praise Diana for being the person who really deserves the credit. As for my "stamina", it is really not difficult to come up with new comments, since the antics of the GIB robots provide an INFINITE source of material.

[benellis58]

Nobody vulnerable. South deals and opens 1D. West doubles. North bids 2C. East bids 2D.

South passes. West bids 2H. North passes. East bids 3C.

South doubles, which GIB STUPIDLY defines as "one club, 3+ diamonds, 14-21 HCP, 22- total points, likely stop in clubs".
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First, WHY would this show PRECISELY ONE club? Second, if it IS precisely ONE club, then how "likely" is it that South has a "likely stop in clubs"? Anyway, the auction continues:

West and North pass. East jumps to 4S.

South and West pass. North doubles, defined as "2- diamonds, 2+ spades, 8+ HCP, rebiddable clubs, 9- total points".

North's hand: VOID, J8, J9762, A109764, so - ignoring anything ELSE about the hand, his double showed at MOST two diamonds...when he had FIVE and showed at LEAST two spades...when he had NONE...and as a minor addition to the foregoing insanity, his double also showed at LEAST 8 HCP...when he had 6.

Just a NORMAL set of circumstances with the typically ridiculous GIB definitions in the BIZARRE universe of GIB.

[benellis58]

If you expect to see rampant stupidity from GIB robots, you will seldom be disappointed. Here's but one example:

Nobody vul. West, North, and East are all GIB robots.

North passes. East opens 1H. South bids 1S. West doubles.

North passes. East bids 2H. South bids 2S. West passes.

North passes, and...East...JUMPS (!) to FOUR hearts.

We now already know that WHATEVER East has he is an idiot, as he CANNOT have a hand where BOTH his 2H call AND his later 4H call are correct.

He had 73, K10987542, A, QJ. His 4H call was defined as "15+ HCP, strong rebiddable hearts, 15- total points", so, as is so often the case, the definition was also ridiculous (not to mention that his hand did not match the definition).

[diana_eva]

Hi Benellis,

While I'll admit your GIB-bashing posts can be entertaining, what would really help is if you could channel some of that energy into including the links to the hands and mentioning which game they were played in.

With those details, we can review the cases you mention properly -- instead of digging through your play history -- which would make it much easier and faster for us to look into the issues you're highlighting.

Here's how to export a hand link:

• Open the hand in your History panel.
• In the diagram at the bottom, click the small blue rectangle with three grey horizontal lines (menu icon).
• Select Export deal from the dropdown.
• Choose one of the following:
  • Handviewer link – to copy a link you can post here.
  • Send robot report – to send the hand directly to our team. You can also include a comment with the game name and a short note about what to check.

Thanks for helping us make the feedback easier to follow.

[benellis58]

The main point of interest here is the typical ineptitude of the GIB definitions. Note that for the definitions of both 4C and 4S, the definitions each say "5- diamonds" and then later in the SAME definition say "3 card diamonds". This is, of course, ridiculous and also shows abject carelessness and laziness in the crafting of the definitions.

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/scpdbe26

[Huibertus]

diana_eva, on 2025-October-19, 01:59, said:

Hi Benellis,

While I'll admit your GIB-bashing posts can be entertaining, what would really help is if you could channel some of that energy into including the links to the hands and mentioning which game they were played in.

With those details, we can review the cases you mention properly -- instead of digging through your play history -- which would make it much easier and faster for us to look into the issues you're highlighting.

Here's how to export a hand link:

• Open the hand in your History panel.
• In the diagram at the bottom, click the small blue rectangle with three grey horizontal lines (menu icon).
• Select Export deal from the dropdown.
• Choose one of the following:
  • Handviewer link – to copy a link you can post here.
  • Send robot report – to send the hand directly to our team. You can also include a comment with the game name and a short note about what to check.

Thanks for helping us make the feedback easier to follow.

Are these reports actually looked at? I do send them at times, but never ever seen any response on it.

A simple link to the hand record, a quote of the report, and a remark "will be addressed in the next maintenance release" or "will be ignored for now" or maybe even "is an invalid point" would be appreciated.

[diana_eva]

Huibertus, on 2025-October-22, 02:51, said:

Are these reports actually looked at? I do send them at times, but never ever seen any response on it.

A simple link to the hand record, a quote of the report, and a remark "will be addressed in the next maintenance release" or "will be ignored for now" or maybe even "is an invalid point" would be appreciated.

They are looked at, but not replied to. They come as automatic reports to the tech team; you should not expect an answer.

We'll try to be more active and respond here in the forums though.

[benellis58]

West, North, and East are all GIB robots.

Typical bidding by this particular South when playing against GIB robots.

Questionable double by GIB West, typical lead by GIB West:

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p95dmcm

[benellis58]

West, North, and East are all GIB robots. Leading can often involve guesswork and the result can often depend on the random layout of the random hand being played. Luck can certainly be a factor. but SOME leads are just plain silly.

Observe the lead by GIB West, which got what it deserved:

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/mrxdc62y

[benellis58]

West, North, and East are all GIB robots.

Typical bidding by this particular South when playing against GIB robots.

We again have the great privilege of seeing GIB West's opening lead and the subsequent defending by the GIB partnership of GIB West and GIB East:

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p8ej9vs

[benellis58]

West, North, and East are all GIB robots. Let's take a peek at how well the East-West GIB robots defend.

"Continue the heart suit at trick 5? Why would I ever continue the suit that my partner played, especially when a third round of spades looks SO attractive?" asks the GIB robot sitting West.

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/yckrkc8f

[benellis58]

It's ALMOST déjà vu:

West, North, and East are all GIB robots. Let's take a peek once again at how well the East-West GIB robots defend.

"Continue the diamond suit at trick 2 or trick 5? Why would I ever continue the suit that my partner played, especially when shifting to (first) hearts and (second) spades looks SO attractive?" asks the GIB robot sitting West...once AGAIN.

https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p955e4z