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You'd think East might dare to mention their 11 card suit (and 12 tricks in hand) at some point
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#201
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Posted 2025-May-07, 15:37
I realize this isn't really a Ben-specific issue (bots in general are notorious for undervaluing extreme distributional hands), but I still found this hand from yesterday's goulash amusing.
You'd think East might dare to mention their 11 card suit (and 12 tricks in hand) at some point
You'd think East might dare to mention their 11 card suit (and 12 tricks in hand) at some point
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Posted 2025-May-08, 02:38
good one 
thanks for reporting!
thanks for reporting!
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Posted 2025-May-11, 02:07
This was from yesterday's Ben & Friends. It feels similar to the one I posted on 4/4: At the very end of the hand the defending bot makes a play that costs a trick and (based on the information the bot had) could not possibly gain.
At Trick 12 East knows that South still has a trump, so there's no hope of a second trick, and no reason not to play the ace.
At Trick 12 East knows that South still has a trump, so there's no hope of a second trick, and no reason not to play the ace.
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Posted 2025-May-11, 12:45
this was from today's ben and friends. the description was "zero or 3 key cards." why would the robot repsond this way? my responses then were described as typical blackwood, i.e., king asking.
seems wrong.
i was south
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Posted 2025-May-21, 09:09
robot passed a 6c cuebid showing king of clubs and being forcing after already having a hearts blackwood. sigh.
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Posted 2025-May-24, 12:16
This is a pretty weird two-suited takeout double with 4 cards and 2 cards in the two suits (in Inter-State):
https://ibb.co/vCz4PNNC
(lead me to go wrong in the play, assuming W had 4 hearts instead of the 2 in actuality).
https://ibb.co/vCz4PNNC
(lead me to go wrong in the play, assuming W had 4 hearts instead of the 2 in actuality).
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Posted Yesterday, 11:24
New here, Hi!
diana_eva, on 2024-January-05, 08:15, said:
Hello BBO Community!
We're pleased to announce an innovative step in the evolution of our online bridge experience: meet Ben (the Bridge ENgine), our newest AI-powered bridge robot. Developed by the talented Lorand Dali, Ben started as an open-source project and has now found a home here at Bridge Base Online (BBO). Click here to read all about Ben on BBO and stay up to date with its latest improvements.
What's Happening?
Lorand Dali, a name many of you might recognize, has joined the BBO family. Over the past few months, he's been diving deep into BBO's vast data reservoirs to train various models of Ben. Blending machine learning with traditional robot coding, he is pushing the boundaries of how bridge robots play and learn.
Innovation Week (January 2024): Initial release of "Ben on BBO"
Mark your calendars! From January 8th to 14th, we're rolling out a special event on BBO. It's your chance to "preview" and play alongside one of the "Ben on BBO" models. This particular version of Ben has been trained on a whopping 100 million hands played in ACBL pair games right here on BBO. Click here to read all about it.
Ben & Friends Daylong: A Daily Bridge Adventure
Each day, Lorand is hosting the "Ben & Friends" daylong game - a unique opportunity for BBO staff and friends to interact with different versions of Ben. If you'd like to join in, drop Lorand a line (he is lorserker on BBO) and he'll add you to the list!
Let's Discuss and Develop Together
This thread is your go-to place for all things Ben. Share your experiences, discuss notable hands, provide feedback on the games featuring Ben, and stay updated on the latest developments in our AI and robotics endeavors. It's also a direct line to Lorand and the BBO team, as we continually work to enhance your bridge-playing experience with AI technology.
Let the games and discussions begin!
P.S.: In case this message seemed unusually witty, thank ChatGPT, our AI assistant. It seems that Ben isn't the only one learning new tricks at BBO. We're embracing AI, one post at a time!
We're pleased to announce an innovative step in the evolution of our online bridge experience: meet Ben (the Bridge ENgine), our newest AI-powered bridge robot. Developed by the talented Lorand Dali, Ben started as an open-source project and has now found a home here at Bridge Base Online (BBO). Click here to read all about Ben on BBO and stay up to date with its latest improvements.
What's Happening?
Lorand Dali, a name many of you might recognize, has joined the BBO family. Over the past few months, he's been diving deep into BBO's vast data reservoirs to train various models of Ben. Blending machine learning with traditional robot coding, he is pushing the boundaries of how bridge robots play and learn.
Innovation Week (January 2024): Initial release of "Ben on BBO"
Mark your calendars! From January 8th to 14th, we're rolling out a special event on BBO. It's your chance to "preview" and play alongside one of the "Ben on BBO" models. This particular version of Ben has been trained on a whopping 100 million hands played in ACBL pair games right here on BBO. Click here to read all about it.
Ben & Friends Daylong: A Daily Bridge Adventure
Each day, Lorand is hosting the "Ben & Friends" daylong game - a unique opportunity for BBO staff and friends to interact with different versions of Ben. If you'd like to join in, drop Lorand a line (he is lorserker on BBO) and he'll add you to the list!
Let's Discuss and Develop Together
This thread is your go-to place for all things Ben. Share your experiences, discuss notable hands, provide feedback on the games featuring Ben, and stay updated on the latest developments in our AI and robotics endeavors. It's also a direct line to Lorand and the BBO team, as we continually work to enhance your bridge-playing experience with AI technology.
Let the games and discussions begin!
P.S.: In case this message seemed unusually witty, thank ChatGPT, our AI assistant. It seems that Ben isn't the only one learning new tricks at BBO. We're embracing AI, one post at a time!