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Posted 2023-March-09, 10:04

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NS are playing 2/1 with 15-17 NT, 1 could be 2 in 4=4=3=2 and excludes 4 card diamonds unless longer.
West is usually conservative, but has faced aggressive pre-empts from NS in the past and maybe decided it was time to give them some of their own medicine.
North opts for 4 and South thinks there might be more, but they stop in 5.
The lead of K is no surprise to declarer, but the dummy is.

1. Are you going to concede three tricks ? If not, what is your plan? (please use a spoiler for first 24 hours to allow as many as possible to think).

2. Are you happy with North's opening and choice of 4 and with South's decision to investigate slam (no spoiler required)?
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Posted 2023-March-09, 13:47

I didn't open the north hand so we're not going slamming.

The most obvious way to avoid losing 3 tricks is for W to hold
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Posted 2023-March-09, 15:31

View PostCyberyeti, on 2023-March-09, 13:47, said:

I didn't open the north hand so we're not going slamming.

Fair enough, also a strong NT by South will probably not elict 4 at this vulnerability. But as South would you go slamming if North opened?

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Posted 2023-March-09, 15:40

View Postpescetom, on 2023-March-09, 15:31, said:

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And no I don't go slamming, I'm actually not sure I bid 4 if I have opened, not going to go well opposite for example Kxxx and the two minor suit Qs, if partner can't act again not sure I want to be in this auction any further.
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Posted 2023-March-09, 15:50

View PostCyberyeti, on 2023-March-09, 15:40, said:

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And no I don't go slamming, I'm actually not sure I bid 4 if I have opened, not going to go well opposite for example Kxxx and the two minor suit Qs, if partner can't act again not sure I want to be in this auction any further.

Two separate questions I think. As South in the circumstances I go slamming, as N who opened not certain which of my three options is best.
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Posted 2023-March-09, 15:54

View PostCyberyeti, on 2023-March-09, 15:40, said:

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And no I don't go slamming, I'm actually not sure I bid 4 if I have opened, not going to go well opposite for example Kxxx and the two minor suit Qs, if partner can't act again not sure I want to be in this auction any further.

Two separate questions I think.
As South in the circumstances I think it's reasonable to go slamming, as N who opened not sure which of the three options is best.
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Posted 2023-March-09, 16:32

I suppose if N overbids twice S might go slamming, I'd suspect something like Qx, Jxxx, AQ, KQxxx as a minimum for this auction so far, a minimum ish weak NT just passes over 4.
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Posted 2023-March-09, 17:43

If I'm going to open this hand in a strong NT context, I want us to be playing 14-16 1N, not 15-17. (Sadly there are pairs out there whose explicit agreement is 15-17 but upgrade an awful lot of 14s.)

4 is a gross overbid.

It's reasonable for S to go slamming at that point.
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Posted 2023-March-10, 09:36

View Postakwoo, on 2023-March-09, 17:43, said:

If I'm going to open this hand in a strong NT context, I want us to be playing 14-16 1N, not 15-17. (Sadly there are pairs out there whose explicit agreement is 15-17 but upgrade an awful lot of 14s.

Not sure how this comment relates to the hand in question. I would open the South hand as 1NT with either agreement, would you not too?
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Posted 2023-March-10, 10:37

View Postpescetom, on 2023-March-10, 09:36, said:

Not sure how this comment relates to the hand in question. I would open the South hand as 1NT with either agreement, would you not too?


I'm talking about North's hand. If I'm opening this kind of balanced hand on a regular basis, then my range on my 1N rebids is too wide if playing 15-17.
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Posted 2023-March-10, 11:18

Here's the full board, as played in a national simultaneous tournament.



The solution of course is to take the diamonds lead with Ace, pull three rounds of trumps, two rounds of clubs and then a spade to the stiff Ace: West takes a diamond trick but is then forced to continue in ruff and sluff.

Alert readers will have noted that the North hand in OP was slightly different: I tweaked it to eliminate the red herring of possible stiff QJ in West.

At national level, almost a third of those who played in hearts made 11 tricks. I suspect that some stumbled into the solution more or less by accident, after playing off AK clubs and realising that a third was doomed: maybe some others were graced by West after playing spades prematurely.
A surprising number made the top for NS of W 4x-2, although none in my club.
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