[ahtan]

Is it possible to give TDs the option to make a tournament a "just declare" tournament?

i.e. create a regular tournament but robots bid it. Then players (students) play what is bid.

It's not "bridge", but it would be useful for learning purposes when put together with an uploaded set of deals. The teacher can analyse each deal, students can compare how they played against their peers.

[diana_eva]

Maybe ability to upload already bid boards would be closer to what you are describing.

That way the teacher defines the bidding too, instead of relying on robots.

It's an interesting suggestion.

[ThomasRush]

diana_eva, on 2022-August-26, 03:56, said:

Maybe ability to upload already bid boards would be closer to what you are describing.

That way the teacher defines the bidding too, instead of relying on robots.

It's an interesting suggestion.

What a great idea both of these are!

[BillHiggin]

ThomasRush, on 2022-August-26, 14:42, said:

What a great idea both of these are!

The BBO club IAC (Intermediate/Advanced Club) holds a "Dare to Declare" tournament most Mondays at 18:00 (GMT) that seems to match what you are describing.

[pescetom]

diana_eva, on 2022-August-26, 03:56, said:

Maybe ability to upload already bid boards would be closer to what you are describing.

That way the teacher defines the bidding too, instead of relying on robots.

It's an interesting suggestion.

It is simple to upload a predefined series of boards, already bid or not.
The teacher can define the contract for each board, and shame those who do not make the contract (training for IMPs).
Or simply set suit for each board, and let those who take most tricks win (training for MPs).
She could also (at least until 2021) use Dealer to create a series where South can always make at least n tricks in Spades (or in NT, as desired).

[thepossum]

I find this sad

For me I always find the bidding the most interesting part of the game of Bridge

[pescetom]

thepossum, on 2022-August-29, 00:22, said:

I find this sad

For me I always find the bidding the most interesting part of the game of Bridge

Me too, but it makes sense from a teaching point of view: get an objective check of everyone's trick taking ability (or not).

[ahtan]

diana_eva, on 2022-August-26, 03:56, said:

Maybe ability to upload already bid boards would be closer to what you are describing.

That way the teacher defines the bidding too, instead of relying on robots.

It's an interesting suggestion.

Yes, I could do that. However, there may be a communication issue. I would have to distribute the instructions and ensure all students read the instruction properly and execute it. I only interact with them via whatsapp and many of them only use phones for the comms and no printer! I'm talking seniors in age who are beginners to aspiring intermediates.

I simply thought the feature is already there (for just declare), you only need to enable it.

[ahtan]

pescetom, on 2022-August-29, 06:35, said:

Me too, but it makes sense from a teaching point of view: get an objective check of everyone's trick taking ability (or not).

I think that trick taking ability is much neglected in general. Once you bid "correctly" (whatever that means 8-)), you need to make that contract.

[mycroft]

"Drive for show, putt for dough."

I love bidding too - as you can see from my posts. But if you can't play the hands, it doesn't matter if you're in all the right contracts.

[diana_eva]

ahtan, on 2022-August-29, 07:30, said:

Yes, I could do that. However, there may be a communication issue. I would have to distribute the instructions and ensure all students read the instruction properly and execute it. I only interact with them via whatsapp and many of them only use phones for the comms and no printer! I'm talking seniors in age who are beginners to aspiring intermediates.

I simply thought the feature is already there (for just declare), you only need to enable it.

I meant as a software improvement Upload the boards already-bid, just like in the robot "just-declare", except the hands are bid by the teacher and not by the robots. I was not suggesting to tell each student what to bid.

[ahtan]

diana_eva, on 2022-August-30, 03:32, said:

I meant as a software improvement Upload the boards already-bid, just like in the robot "just-declare", except the hands are bid by the teacher and not by the robots. I was not suggesting to tell each student what to bid.

That would be cool if you could do that. Yes, I agree this would be better and at the same time, it would be nice to have commentary displayed beside the bid.