how does west transfer to hearts after opponents 2 ♣ overcall?
transfer after opponents overcall west bid
#2
Posted 2021-May-21, 16:00
Look up the Lebensohl convention, look up the Rubinsohl convention.
Essentially lebensohl gives you 3 ways to bid hearts, 2♥ NF, 3♥ and 2N-3♣-3♥ one forcing one invitational, people play them either way round. Rubinsohl in this case uses 3♦ as an invitational or better transfer to hearts.
#3
Posted 2021-May-21, 16:47
#4
Posted 2021-May-21, 16:53
Warning: many players decide to keep trying to play "systems on" over higher overcalls, using what is known as "stolen bid doubles". This is awful, because you've lost your 2♣ (or higher) "call", much more commonly the higher overcalls show that suit (potentially "and"), and if they know they can push you around safely, many players will do so - that's the whole point behind DONT, after all. Don't do this in general (as Cyberyeti says, look into some Lebensohl variant); think about it for (especially artificial) 2♣ overcalls.
#5
Posted 2021-May-22, 14:25
#6
Posted 2021-May-22, 14:44
pescetom, on 2021-May-22, 14:25, said:
Do you ask? If you are wanting to bid and the answer may influence your decision, yes.
If it wasn't alerted you assume it's clubs don't you?
#7
Posted 2021-May-22, 15:18
jillybean, on 2021-May-22, 14:44, said:
If it wasn't alerted you assume it's clubs don't you?
Insomma
IIRC, ACBL does not assume this interference is artificial, unlike the less obvious Unusual NT.
In a "normal" RA you can assume it is clubs, at your peril.
The answer certainly influences your decision here.
But asking is no picnic either.
#8
Posted 2021-May-22, 18:02
pescetom, on 2021-May-22, 15:18, said:
IIRC, ACBL does not assume this interference is artificial, unlike the less obvious Unusual NT.
Correct
pescetom, on 2021-May-22, 15:18, said:
The answer certainly influences your decision here.
True
pescetom, on 2021-May-22, 15:18, said:
Don't ask, take a look at your opponents convention card.
Oh wait, the mandatory requirement for both pairs to have a completed CC is not enforced. We want to play "nice bridge".
If they do have a card, it may or may not be accurate.
Yep, you're &^**%%.
#9
Posted 2021-May-23, 10:47
jillybean, on 2021-May-22, 18:02, said:
Oh wait, the mandatory requirement for both pairs to have a completed CC is not enforced. We want to play "nice bridge".
If they do have a card, it may or may not be accurate.
Yep, you're &^**%%.
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#10
Posted 2021-May-23, 15:20
jillybean, on 2021-May-22, 18:02, said:
Oh wait, the mandatory requirement for both pairs to have a completed CC is not enforced. We want to play "nice bridge".
If they do have a card, it may or may not be accurate.
Yep, you're &^**%%.
It can get worse than that.
I particularly remember the time (normal club game, play without screens) that TD eyed our CC like something brown on the pavement, took it away to examine for evidence of misdemeanour and returned to warn us severely that we were obliged to have two copies not one, but he would take no action this time (not a word to our opponents with no CC).
#11
Posted 2021-May-24, 02:27
pescetom, on 2021-May-23, 15:20, said:
I particularly remember the time (normal club game, play without screens) that TD eyed our CC like something brown on the pavement, took it away to examine for evidence of misdemeanour and returned to warn us severely that we were obliged to have two copies not one, but he would take no action this time (not a word to our opponents with no CC).