Cheating allegations A new approach
#61
Posted 2020-December-04, 11:12
If you're not playing in a WBF event, the WBF's regulations are irrelevant. The ACBL, for example, doesn't mention supplementary notes.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#62
Posted 2020-December-04, 12:03
blackshoe, on 2020-December-04, 11:12, said:
blackshoe, on 2020-December-04, 11:12, said:
#63
Posted 2020-December-04, 16:43
blackshoe, on 2020-December-04, 11:12, said:
The WBF regs talk about 'supplementary sheets' and say what I said.
WBF SystemsPolicy said:
The principle of adequate disclosure requires that competitors fully disclose all conventions and treatments
requiring defensive preparation. In addition to the System cards, pairs will use Supplementary Sheets to
achieve this objective.
The use of Supplementary Sheets is not strictly limited for all events, provided that the entries are properly
numbered to correspond to appropriately cross-referenced numbers on the System card itself. The sheets
must readily legible and the numbered entries must be separated by discernible heavy lines. While brevity
is encouraged, particularly for Category 2 and Category 3 events, full disclosure must not be prejudiced in
any way as a result.
blackshoe, on 2020-December-04, 11:12, said:
Many RAs have regulations that closely mirror the WBF regulations.
FIGB for example.
#64
Posted 2020-December-16, 17:16
Cameron French relates Collateral Damage a horrific but typical case of what happens to alleged cheats and their victims.
In the final of the 1979 ACBL Mens' BAM, in Norfolk, Dr. Jim Sternberg, Allan Cokin, Steve Sion, Alan Sontag, and Peter Weichsel beat Gary Hahn, Zeke Jabbour, David Hoffner, Mike Cappelletti, Sr., David Sacks, and Ron Feldman. During the final, Hahn's team asked for a ruling to investigate alleged cheating by Cokin & Sion, which decided the match. Kit Wolsey and others proved this allegation. Eventually, Cokin and Sion were banned. But, to this day there has been no redress for the victims.
Mike Passal relates. on BridgWinners, in The Whole Story, a more recent case. In an ACBL Swiss Teams, Mary Chilcote, Jeff Meckstroth, Eric Rodwell, Mike Passal and Chris Compton beat Marvin Darter's team. Their accounts of a decisive incident in the match:
Mike Passall said:
Marvin Darter said:
The TD didn't give a ruling. He told Mike's victims to write a player memo. The rest of the story is obscure because ACBL procedures are opaque. Eventually, Mike was suspended from play over the Chrismas holiday with his international career unaffected. His victims received no encouragement and no redress.
As usual in Bridge-Law cases, BridgeWinner comments divide on patriotic lines, ACBL pros defend Mike's actions and opine that the ACBL handled him harshly.
A couple of lessons...
- NBOs should not handle allegations against their own top players and officials.
- Victims should be afforded some form of redress, however belatedtoply. Preferably places and titles should all be moved up. Inevitably this process will often be crude and unsatisfactory (for example, cheats can eliminate a likely winner, in the first round of a KO). Nevertheless it should be attempted: in as simple and fair way as is practicable.
#65
Posted 2020-December-17, 04:05
That does not mean there should be no international anti-cheating authority however. Think about the WADA model where national sports bodies retain internal anti-doping responsibility but are governed and top level athletes are monitored centrally.
#66
Posted 2021-January-15, 08:40
- Play slowly then..
- Using a different BBO account log into My hands
- Find the hand-records of a fast player, competing in the same tournament.
- With any luck, he will have already played the hand that you are about to play.
- You can see all 4 hands, and even perform a double-dummy analysis.
They have reported this security flaw to BBO; it should be easy to plug; but BBO need to address the issue, urgently.
#67
Posted 2021-January-15, 10:56
nige1, on 2021-January-15, 08:40, said:
- Play slowly then..
- Using a different BBO account log into My hands
- Find the hand-records of a fast player, competing in the same tournament.
- With any luck, he will have already played the hand that you are about to play.
- You can see all 4 hands, and even perform a double-dummy analysis.
This is a misrepresentation of the security flaw, as it is not as widespread as this post implies. In fact I regard it as a minor issue, as I suspect would 99% of the BBO members.
It does not affect BBO tournaments. If you are playing an event based on multiple team matches that use the same boards, perhaps run by multiple hosts or a BBO user with the privilege to run multiple team matches, then these individual team matches will be available on BBO Hand Records when they finish. At this point, if you are a slow player and know who is playing in a fast match, you could look up the results.
The answer is to play different boards in the matches. Or ask BBO for some way to delay publication of results for organiser XYZ, assuming that this does not adversely affect the platform or annoy the faster players.
#68
Posted 2021-January-15, 15:27
- Get together in a small group.
- Simultaneously join a tournament.
- Stream the tournament live and discuss the play of each hand while watching one of you playing it on TwitchTV
- Then, when you know the outcome of the deal, play it yourself.