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1NT with 5-card major

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Posted 2019-January-05, 14:22

 Cyberyeti, on 2019-January-05, 13:59, said:

Takeout for us, the chance of a WEAK NT containing a genuine penalty double is so minimal as to be disregarded, the chance of competing a partscore with a doubleton spade is much higher.


Here in a strong NT land that double is takeout probably for slightly more than half the field in a tournament - a majority but not a vast majority.
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Posted 2019-January-06, 04:54

 pescetom, on 2019-January-05, 14:22, said:

Here in a strong NT land that double is takeout probably for slightly more than half the field in a tournament - a majority but not a vast majority.

never thought of it - playing IMPS then doubling for penalty is probably a good idea since you will get a small number of massive scores - playing pairs then maybe a X should be for TO to compete for the part score (if not more).

Anyway - I think overcalling 2 Spades is not dumb - it was a gamble that failed - and we now have a pair trying to gain in the judicial process what they lost at the table. The 1NT caller would presumably have made the same call with 2=5 rather than 5=2 in the majors. I also feel that it was the 5 spades that was the reason for the overcall, not the fact that the 1NT could not have a 5CM. Any score adjustment would be pretty minimal (5% passing 1NT?)
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