Bridge Base Advanced System notes for Bidding Polls
#61
Posted 2005-May-06, 08:19
don't you think that the System notes to refer to for the Bidding Polls should be in a separate PINNED post ?
I mean, if you leave those notes into this thread, this thread is likely to get buried by the dozens of threads on the various hands to discuss ?
#62
Posted 2005-May-11, 08:11
one further remark regarding new convetions in BBO Advanced:
Do not overcomplicate the system, keep the description of the
system fairly simple.
The entry level for Newcomers, who want to participate, should
not be to high.
I know adding, one further agreement doe not hurt, but the 2nd
one does not hurt as well, ...
The main focus of the poll should be on judgement calls.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#63
Posted 2005-May-12, 11:16
fred, on Apr 30 2005, 03:36 PM, said:
I recall thinking that this was an important goal to achieve.
(...)
Probably there are people out there who would be interested on working on this project (which would involve trying to come up with a consensus as to what various bids should mean and then creating .lin files to present the information).
Then again, perhaps we should use Bridge World Standard. We have excellent relations with The Bridge World magazine and they have already done a lot of work to try to define an effective system for advanced players that most experts (in America at least) are comfortable with.
Any thoughts on this?
Something in me thinks that BBO advanced would have the best chances of being useful/successful if it just tries to fix what the majority of advanced and expert players would expect when playing "Let's play 2/1 and udca, fine p?" with a pick-up partner on BBO. (This would make it substantially less advanced than BWS, I guess, and different enough that it deserves to exist independantly.)
Exceptions are situations where everybody likes to play some convention, but there is no default choice (defense against 1NT, continuations after 2NT rebid etc.).
I think BBO adv comes pretty close to this goal, with some exceptions (EKCB, 4♠ as kickback when hearts agreed,...).
Arend
#64
Posted 2005-May-12, 11:46
Ben
#65
Posted 2005-June-09, 06:59
IF last train to clarksville is something you are not familar with, you might want to read this (part II of improving 2/1 by Fred) article .... What is last train to clarksville
New BPO poll will be posted in ~12 hours. Votes must be four days (~96 hours) after posting of the poll.
Ben
#66
Posted 2005-June-18, 11:44
You can be there by 5:30 'cause I've made your reservation, don't be slow, oh no, no, no. Oh no, no, no"
#67
Posted 2005-September-15, 14:55
#68
Posted 2005-September-15, 17:02
mike777, on Sep 15 2005, 04:55 PM, said:
I recall no comments concerning long and short suit game tries. So the assumption is no, they are not part of the system. What exist is what is in the first part of this post. With the development of Full Disclosure we will have to be clear on such actions, so the group approving what might become the "official" BBO advanced FD version will have to make a ruling on such issues I guess.
#69
Posted 2009-December-29, 18:49
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Yeah this sucks and no world class partnertship play it. Let's change it to something simple and much better like landy or multilandy.
#70
Posted 2009-December-30, 02:11
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Not that the convention is light years better than Capp, but it's not "simple". Simple is Dbl for the majors, rest natural.
#71
Posted 2009-December-30, 05:22
George Carlin
#72
Posted 2009-December-30, 07:03
bluecalm, on Dec 30 2009, 12:49 AM, said:
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Yeah this sucks and no world class partnertship play it. Let's change it to something simple and much better like landy or multilandy.
correction: capp sucks beyond belief
prefer simple landy and 2♦ overcall = natural (KISS principle)
advances to landy should include 2♦ = you pick major kthxbai
NOW... how about some new set of hands?
#73
Posted 2009-December-30, 07:06
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Whatever is fine by me. I would prefer Landy as I like penalty double. Another option is 2C majors, 2D = d+M, rest natural.
Capp sucks hard especially in casual partnerships. So many problems after 2C overcall and their bid (what suit partner have ? how to get to know this ? what if they are in 4H and we would like to defend if partner has spade ? How to inquire for longer major/invite game opposite 2D? is it standard ? etc. etc. etc.)
#74
Posted 2010-October-08, 05:43
#75
Posted 2011-May-31, 10:22
awm, on 2005-April-29, 13:58, said:
inquiry, on 2005-May-02, 08:09, said:
I think that when something like the above is unknown, it's not enough information.
#76
Posted 2011-September-08, 07:16
inquiry, on 2005-June-09, 06:59, said:
IF last train to clarksville is something you are not familar with, you might want to read this (part II of improving 2/1 by Fred) article .... What is last train to clarksville
New BPO poll will be posted in ~12 hours. Votes must be four days (~96 hours) after posting of the poll.
Ben
Does Fred's article still exist, somewhere?
No worries, I've found it http://bbi.bridgebas...fg/2over12.html
the link from Ben's post is correct but does not work for me.
#77
Posted 2011-December-02, 23:55
Inquiry's summary is very good.
But did anybody make a complete write-up of the system ? Is it available please.
How did the system develop further ? What is the relationship with the CCs on BBO: BBO Advanced (2/1=GF) and BBO Advanced 1.3. ?
Many thanks for your help
♥♥♥
#78
Posted 2012-January-02, 20:50
However, may I suggest the label change of "Bergen" to "Reverse Bergen", as that is the method in which 3 di is the mixed raise. In Bergen the mixed raise is clubs, not what u r specifying.
Also, a minor spelling thing: quizzes, not quizes.