Talking Pts. XV? Rule of Twenty User Beware!
#1
Posted 2017-May-17, 12:04
instead of thirteen as called for under 5cMABBS for trump play. The Rule of Twenty reads: if hcpts. plus the number of cards in the two longest suits adds up to twenty or more, open the bidding. In other words, under Rule of Twenty a hand with eleven hcpts. or more and two strains of cards adding to nine can be opened due to that combination of hcpts. and cards providing thirteen plus points.
This holds true except for the hand shapes 5-4-3-1, 5-4-3-2, 5-4-4-0 when used with the point count method put forth by the A.C.B.L., Kaplan and any other that calls for only distribution length points in the opening hand. For the instructions to do so are given through the point count method that determines a hand's distribution count, not a hand's shape.
Hand shapes from a completed trump deal are made-up of doubletons, singletons and voids. Depending upon the shape of hand and the assigned value given the doubleton, singleton and void through the point count method in use, an additional twenty points can be added to a combined hand's point count for auction purposes. But when the point count method doesn't call for distribution short points from the opening hand, as the A.B.C.L. and Kaplan do, the point count from an opening hand is restricted to delivering one point from 5-4-X-X hand shapes.
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#3
Posted 2017-May-17, 16:32
#4
Posted 2017-May-17, 16:39
#5
Posted 2017-May-17, 18:52
Nowadays, people are not waiting for 13 points to,open the bidding. Normal is 12, and some 11-counts are considered openers. Some pairs open all 11s.
#6
Posted 2017-May-18, 02:22
Vampyr, on 2017-May-17, 18:52, said:
I open most unbalanced 10s...
#7
Posted 2017-May-18, 10:13
Vampyr, on 2017-May-17, 18:52, said:
Nowadays, people are not waiting for 13 points to,open the bidding. Normal is 12, and some 11-counts are considered openers. Some pairs open all 11s.
Thank you for the elaboration.
#10
Posted 2017-May-18, 12:25
bridgepali, on 2017-May-18, 10:13, said:
http://bridgewinners...n-style-or-not/
This is a good read and I don't think it is off-topic.
Enjoy.
#11
Posted 2017-May-18, 17:36
bridgepali, on 2017-May-18, 10:20, said:
Yes, but where is the examplehand bid poorly to a playless comtract?
#12
Posted 2017-May-19, 11:12
Vampyr, on 2017-May-18, 17:36, said:
The hands you refer to are demonstration hands. No matter the strain opener opens with, under the 5cMABBS and a point counting method similar in values to Roth or Goren being used, the number of tricks to be gotten are fixable and predictable when card play is without misplays. Thank you for the question.
#14
Posted 2017-May-20, 10:19
RedSpawn, on 2017-May-18, 12:25, said:
This is a good read and I don't think it is off-topic.
Enjoy.
I will and let you know.
#16
Posted 2017-May-21, 16:38
bridgepali, on 2017-May-21, 10:30, said:
Because I have a system designed to do so and think it is winning bridge. Why do you think 13 hcp is a magical level suitable for all bidding systems?
#17
Posted 2017-May-22, 11:50
Zelandakh, on 2017-May-21, 16:38, said:
I just posted the first of two post as to how I view points for opening trump hands. Thanks for the reply. Apparently you have partners that know your playing methods.
#19
Posted 2017-May-23, 15:46
Zelandakh, on 2017-May-18, 02:22, said:
But do not forget that bridgepali can conjure up at least three distribution points on even a balanced 10-count. So I think he opens more aggressively than you.
#20
Posted 2017-May-24, 11:02
RedSpawn, on 2017-May-18, 12:25, said:
This is a good read and I don't think it is off-topic.
Enjoy.
I am not aware of any advantage "opening low" gives to bidding a hand. In the end it takes "X" points to take "Y" tricks. Thanks for the read.