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Posted 2016-September-08, 13:40
West opens a polish club and leads ♠Q
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Posted 2016-September-08, 14:49
I would play West for ♣ AQJx or AQxx or AJxx ♥ A and ♠QJx(x)
If spade Q denies K, I can not afford to duck, E will cover and play ♣ for down 1.
So spade A, Dia AQ discarding a spade, and spade ruff to hand.
Play ♥ towards dummy. LHO will win this probably. exit diamond, I will ruff in hand.
Play 2nd ♥ to dummy, and play 3rd ♠ and ruff
Go to dummy with 3rd ♥ and play 4th ♠.
a-East has the 4th spade, then I ruff and play ♣T, hoping West originally had AQJxx ♣, endplaying him for 10th trick
b-East shows up on 4th spade, then I simply discard a club and endplay West again.
If it turns out that East has 2 hearts and 4 spades, then I will have to play W for holding originally Jxxx♦
If spade Q denies K, I can not afford to duck, E will cover and play ♣ for down 1.
So spade A, Dia AQ discarding a spade, and spade ruff to hand.
Play ♥ towards dummy. LHO will win this probably. exit diamond, I will ruff in hand.
Play 2nd ♥ to dummy, and play 3rd ♠ and ruff
Go to dummy with 3rd ♥ and play 4th ♠.
a-East has the 4th spade, then I ruff and play ♣T, hoping West originally had AQJxx ♣, endplaying him for 10th trick
b-East shows up on 4th spade, then I simply discard a club and endplay West again.
If it turns out that East has 2 hearts and 4 spades, then I will have to play W for holding originally Jxxx♦
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Posted 2016-September-08, 14:52
I think my suggested line above fails if West exits with 2nd ♥ (if he has one) instead of ♦ or ♠
Oh well...
Oh well...
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Posted 2016-September-08, 17:33
♠A, ♦AQ pitching ♠. ♠ ruff.
♥ to dummy. Say K wins. Ruff 3rd ♠.
♥ to dummy. Say West wins and
1) Returns S. Ruff. Return to dummy with trump and ruff ♦, exiting with ♣10.
2) Returns D. Ruff. Back to dummy and ruff ♠, exiting with ♣10.
Not making if ♥A is with East.
♥ to dummy. Say K wins. Ruff 3rd ♠.
♥ to dummy. Say West wins and
1) Returns S. Ruff. Return to dummy with trump and ruff ♦, exiting with ♣10.
2) Returns D. Ruff. Back to dummy and ruff ♠, exiting with ♣10.
Not making if ♥A is with East.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 17:39
SteveMoe, on 2016-September-08, 17:33, said:
♠A, ♦AQ pitching ♠. ♠ ruff.
♥ to dummy. Say K wins. Ruff 3rd ♠.
♥ to dummy. Say West wins and
1) Returns S. Ruff. Return to dummy with trump and ruff ♦, exiting with ♣10.
2) Returns D. Ruff. Back to dummy and ruff ♠, exiting with ♣10.
Not making if ♥A is with East.
♥ to dummy. Say K wins. Ruff 3rd ♠.
♥ to dummy. Say West wins and
1) Returns S. Ruff. Return to dummy with trump and ruff ♦, exiting with ♣10.
2) Returns D. Ruff. Back to dummy and ruff ♠, exiting with ♣10.
Not making if ♥A is with East.
They will not duck first ♥ unless you bribed them.
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2016-September-08, 22:19
MrAce, on 2016-September-08, 17:39, said:
They will not duck first ♥ unless you bribed them.
Let's hope West holds the stiff ♥A!
More realistically, West's 4=2=2=5 or 4=1=2=6 should get us home.
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Posted 2016-September-15, 23:57
So I tried a legitimate line of endplayin west with 4th spade, sadly he was 4234 and rightfuly escaped with second heart after winning ♥A. This meant int he end position he had a third diamond I couldn't ruff out to escape endplay.
At the other table spade lead was ducked, and East, who doesn't have ♠K10 decided to duck in fear of setting up a trick in spades for declarer.
At the other table spade lead was ducked, and East, who doesn't have ♠K10 decided to duck in fear of setting up a trick in spades for declarer.
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Posted 2016-September-18, 10:39
Fluffy, on 2016-September-15, 23:57, said:
At the other table spade lead was ducked, and East, who doesn't have ♠K10 decided to duck in fear of setting up a trick in spades for declarer.
That's what happened at our table. South opened a multi and declared 4H. I led the SQ, and my partner with Kxx of spades was worried about overtaking and setting up an extra spade trick if declarer started with 10x; he couldn't see there was any need to overtake and play a club - the contract was either cold or one off, unless South had 7 hearts for his multi.
This hand is a good reflection of how it may look obvious to you how the defence will go (if you duck RHO will overtake and play a club), but it's not at all obvious to the defence.
Teammates stayed out of game, so that was a painful swing out.
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Posted 2016-September-19, 02:14
In this case I now have the feeling I played badly, but the problem with legitimate vs ilegitimate line problems remains the same, you can't analyce afterwards which one is better.
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