[mike777]

I just watch meckwell on bbo



1) 1 minor
2) pard x
3) with roughly 4432 say axxx...axxx...xx..xxx you bid 1 major
4) opp pass but pard raises to 2 major

you now make easy pass


this shocked me

pard who x had a standard around 13 nothing special


as a nonexpert confusing...very confusing
I thought 2 of major...huge hand huge

[Zelandakh]

They play the raise as 4 cards and no extras I believe. The idea is to make life more difficult for the opponents by going immediately to the correct level for competition.

[FrancesHinden]

It's "standard expert" to play the raise as 4 cards and nothing much extra. No point passing out 1M

[Stephen Tu]

Common yes, but has it really progressed to "standard expert" yet?

It does seem to lead to jump raising lighter which could potentially put you too high when could have bought it more cheaply? And maybe less likely necessary to block opps when both have already passed once?

[awm]

It's pretty universal in sequences where opener makes a second bid or double like 1m-x-p-1M-2m-2M that the raise just shows 4-card support. With opener passing at 2nd turn I think there is less consensus but even the more conservative bidders I think it's around 15 and not "huge"

[fourdad]

Been that way for years...standard "expert" is sometimes still "stone age"

[iandayre]

I believe it is still Standard that a raise by doubler here invites game if advancer has a hand close to a jump on the first round. Here is another point - with a decent 4-4 in the majors hand like the 2-Ace example or a bit less bid SPADES first, and be prepared to compete further in Hearts if the opportunity presents itself.

So yes, barring an agreement like theirs, had you bid 1S the first time and been raised, you should go to game.

[helene_t]

To invite game, doubler could cuebid. While this doesn't promise 4-card support, advancer will not bypass 2 of his suit with a very weak hand. So a direct raise shouldn't be "huge". That said, if I played with a random and I held two aces, I would make a move.