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Posted 2015-September-15, 16:50
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Posted 2015-September-15, 18:02
Why are you showing us the east hand?
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"
-- Bertrand Russell
-- Bertrand Russell
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Posted 2015-September-15, 19:09
Exactly, seeing both hands makes a 3 NT bid easy. But, at the table, maybe it's not so easy. You can't count on partner having a ♥ stop.
At MPs, I think you bid 3 NT and take you chances that ♣s will run. If not, take your bad result and move on to the next round.
At IMPs, either 3 NT or 5 ♣ are possibilities. You either bid 3 NT and take a gamble like at MPs or possibly double then sit if partner finds a 3 NT bid. If partner bids 3 ♠, you could bid 4 ♣ trying for 5 ♣. Over 4 ♦ or 4 ♠, you'd sort of be stuck bidding 5 ♣. However, if partner is likely to take your subsequent ♣ bid as a control, then you're stuck with a 3 NT bid as you'll never find a ♣ contract.
At MPs, I think you bid 3 NT and take you chances that ♣s will run. If not, take your bad result and move on to the next round.
At IMPs, either 3 NT or 5 ♣ are possibilities. You either bid 3 NT and take a gamble like at MPs or possibly double then sit if partner finds a 3 NT bid. If partner bids 3 ♠, you could bid 4 ♣ trying for 5 ♣. Over 4 ♦ or 4 ♠, you'd sort of be stuck bidding 5 ♣. However, if partner is likely to take your subsequent ♣ bid as a control, then you're stuck with a 3 NT bid as you'll never find a ♣ contract.
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Posted 2015-September-16, 07:08
5♣. If someone tells me that 3nt is better according to a sim, I will believe them.
I won't double. It is too unlikely that p can bid 3NT so it only serves to confuse partner. If I bid 5♣ immediately at least I know that if p corrects to 5♦ he will have the hand for it.
I won't double. It is too unlikely that p can bid 3NT so it only serves to confuse partner. If I bid 5♣ immediately at least I know that if p corrects to 5♦ he will have the hand for it.
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Posted 2015-September-16, 08:21
4c
So much potential but m 4c bid must be available as natural and not some minorwood or some such. W/o a natural 4c I would prefer 3n which should be a ton easier than 5c. If p has a slammish hand they can cue bid over 4c or they can try to sign off in 4n (with a heart stop) or 5c. There is some risk of starting with 4c in that 3n might be our last makeable spot (especially true at MP) but the risk can be rewarded quite handsomely when min p AKxx Ax xxxx xxx can cue bid 4h and get us to slam:).
The downside of 3n or 5c is missing an otherwise easy to bid (grand?) slam where opener is afraid to move since they have zero clue you can readily provide 8 if not 9 tricks:)))))))))))))))))))))))))
So much potential but m 4c bid must be available as natural and not some minorwood or some such. W/o a natural 4c I would prefer 3n which should be a ton easier than 5c. If p has a slammish hand they can cue bid over 4c or they can try to sign off in 4n (with a heart stop) or 5c. There is some risk of starting with 4c in that 3n might be our last makeable spot (especially true at MP) but the risk can be rewarded quite handsomely when min p AKxx Ax xxxx xxx can cue bid 4h and get us to slam:).
The downside of 3n or 5c is missing an otherwise easy to bid (grand?) slam where opener is afraid to move since they have zero clue you can readily provide 8 if not 9 tricks:)))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Posted 2015-September-16, 15:34
IMO this depends on form of scoring. If matchpoints (or BAM) you try 3NT and hold your breath. If IMPs, 4C seems a bit more accurate, investigating slam.
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Posted 2015-September-17, 05:10
I agree with Helene. 5 Clubs for me which my reg partner should see as invitational...
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Posted 2015-September-17, 09:31
4♣. Both 3N and 5♣ opposite an unlimited hand seem defeatist. Could believe 3N is right at MPs.
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
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Posted 2015-September-17, 10:16
Form of scoring is critical here.
At MPs on a potential swing board 3NT looks like the value bid, however at IMPs +600/+920 in clubs scores up very favourably vs +630/+690 so i'd be happy to investigate the minor fit.
At MPs on a potential swing board 3NT looks like the value bid, however at IMPs +600/+920 in clubs scores up very favourably vs +630/+690 so i'd be happy to investigate the minor fit.
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