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Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

#21541 User is offline   johnu 

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Posted 2024-June-24, 02:15

View Postthepossum, on 2024-June-23, 08:00, said:

My memory seems to think of something like Christian America being swamped by Christians who need to be stopped followed by loud cheering

What the hidden subtitles would have said is:
"Fake christian America being swamped by brown people who don't speak English who need to be stopped followed by loud cheering"
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#21542 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2024-June-24, 07:59

I read on another site the claim that Trump is destroying the GOP. I disagree. He is rebranding it. This is frightening. His appeal is spectacle, escapism. Want to know his base? Look no further than the crowds at Nascar events, pro-wrestling fans,, and NFL football fans. Mix in the welcome to anyone with a gripe and you have the perfect mix for a demagogue.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Black Lives Matter. / "I need ammunition, not a ride." Zelensky
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Posted 2024-June-25, 02:17

View Postjohnu, on 2024-June-24, 02:15, said:

What the hidden subtitles would have said is:
"Fake christian America being swamped by brown people who don't speak English who need to be stopped followed by loud cheering"


It crossed my mind that Christian means something else - who am I to say. Loud cheers
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Posted 2024-June-27, 18:20

War is common and so are elections, but is there any causal relationship?
Carter's loss, despite incumbency, is often associated with a broken helicopter in the Iranian desert.
Do autocrats like Trump so much that Russia would invade Ukraine, Iran set fire to the middle east and China attempt a naval blockade of a tiny island in the Phillipines?
Or are they just flexing in the new multipolar world?
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Posted 2024-June-27, 20:33

View Postpilowsky, on 2024-June-27, 18:20, said:

War is common and so are elections, but is there any causal relationship?
Carter's loss, despite incumbency, is often associated with a broken helicopter in the Iranian desert.
Do autocrats like Trump so much that Russia would invade Ukraine, Iran set fire to the middle east and China attempt a naval blockade of a tiny island in the Phillipines?
Or are they just flexing in the new multipolar world?


The super wealthy see themselves as world citizens. Countries are insignificant.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Black Lives Matter. / "I need ammunition, not a ride." Zelensky
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Posted 2024-June-27, 20:35

When asked about his response to the fentanyl crisis Trump said "I bought an incredible dog".
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Posted 2024-June-28, 09:04

I am no law expert (or even a lawyer type) but, to me, it seems like the United States Supreme Court has been systematically destroying the abilities of administrative functions to do their job. Numerous opinions over the past few years have gone in favour of Private Sector corporations that sue a (/any) Regulatory body on interpretation/application of rules & laws.

This is not good, especially considering that the Pvt sector in the USA has far fewer restrictions than (say) the EU.

Large US multinationals corporations that operate in the EU market comply with the (stringent) EU regulatory framework. These same companies then go about defying/challenging the (relatively modest) US regulatory framework when serving in the domestic market.
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Posted 2024-June-28, 15:39

Call me pessimistic or what you will, but after last night, the US elections can only go one way, barring a deus ex machina, or a change in the Democratic ticket.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:54

View Postfoobar, on 2024-June-28, 15:39, said:

Call me pessimistic or what you will, but after last night, the US elections can only go one way, barring a deus ex machina, or a change in the Democratic ticket.


With much regret, I believe you are right.

The problem was never age, not exactly. I am 85 and this summer I decided to hire someone to mow the lawn. When my father was 85 he had been dead for eight years. Aging problems vary. The debate brought the problem out clearly. Biden has trouble focusing, he loses track of what he is saying, he mixes up words. It's a problem that is associated with age but the debate made it clear that for Biden the problem has arrived, age be damned. It's a problem that usually gets worse, a second term would end in January of 2029, are we up for that? If it is still Biden versus Trump in November I will be voting for Biden, but that just shows what I think of the other choice. I saw (I forget where) some comments from preveviously undecided voters and one guy said someting on the order of "If I have to choose between a lying scumbag and a guy who has lost his abilities I'll take the lying scumbag". Well, I'll stick with the guy who has lost it but I doub that we are a majority.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:09

I have never been keen on the existence of a non-bridge forum, let alone the need to debate the politics of another country... but with respect and gratitude to Biden it seems to me important that the democrats quickly find a more vital and convincing candidate.
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Posted Yesterday, 16:04

When neither candidate is suitable America needs to re-advertise.
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Posted Yesterday, 18:37

It's a decision for the people of the USA but they are kind of powerful - some of us even have alliances with the USA - sorry, more correctly, my country is in alliance with them. I do try to avoid opinions one way or the other. Just occasionally ask questions

Is this forum not something of a relaxing space compared to the Bridge forums
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Posted Yesterday, 19:04

View Postthepossum, on 2024-June-29, 18:37, said:

It's a decision for the people of the USA but they are kind of powerful - some of us even have alliances with the USA - sorry, more correctly, my country is in alliance with them. I do try to avoid opinions one way or the other. Just occasionally ask questions

Is this forum not something of a relaxing space compared to the Bridge forums


Right. Politcal comments are easy. Playing a bridge hand, now that requires some serious thought. Posted Image
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Posted Yesterday, 21:14

Perhaps I'm eternally optimistic, but if there ever was a politician who would stop spending all of their time talking about how awful the alternative was, and instead just be a bit positive - perhaps even recognising that some things the opposition did were beneficial for the country - then I would almost surely vote for them, no matter what party they were from. Sadly, even in NZ, this doesn't really exist (though far less dramatic compared to USA..)
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Posted Yesterday, 21:54

View Postsmerriman, on 2024-June-29, 21:14, said:

Perhaps I'm eternally optimistic, but if there ever was a politician who would stop spending all of their time talking about how awful the alternative was, and instead just be a bit positive - perhaps even recognising that some things the opposition did were beneficial for the country - then I would almost surely vote for them, no matter what party they were from. Sadly, even in NZ, this doesn't really exist (though far less dramatic compared to USA..)


Well said.

I find it infuriating that, during debates or speeches, politicians in many nations

A. do not focus on policies, actions, and (for want of a better phrase) "national philosophy";
B. do not explain why things will be better under their rule (positive) and instead focus exclusively on how things will be worse under the opponent (negative)
C. despite not doing A. or B. above, make it pretty obvious to the audience that it is the voters' obligation to vote for them... even when politicians offer nothing in return.


View Postkenberg, on 2024-June-29, 06:54, said:

I saw (I forget where) some comments from preveviously undecided voters and one guy said someting on the order of "If I have to choose between a lying scumbag and a guy who has lost his abilities I'll take the lying scumbag"

I wouldn't be surprised if numerous US voters hold their noses and vote for the (insanely sleazy) candidate using this argument.
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Posted Yesterday, 22:46

I thought remarkable that both accused the other of being the "worst President in history". Quite a competition to contemplate
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